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Atlantis Boycotted!! Do you support?


xdude A German tour company is boycotting Atlantis Hotel until it agrees to release a whale shark from its aquarium. Frankfurt-based tour company Takeoff Reisen, which organises holidays for thousands of Germans each year, said it is refusing customer requests for booking at the hotel until the "tragedy" ends. Manager Thomas Lohrer told 7DAYS that the company had received numerous requests for but he refused to make a reservation. "I have told my clients that I am not willing to support this tragedy. Most of my clients booked either a different hotel or a different destination," Lohrer said. , which has been holding the 13ft female whale shark since late August, has not yet returned calls from the World Wildlife Fund or 7DAYS seeking a date for when the shark will be released. It said that the shark was found floundering in shallow water and is being held at the world's largest hotel aquarium while its health is monitored. However, a Facebook group called Set The Whale Shark Free From The Atlantis Aquarium Dubai has called for the shark's immediate release and has attracted more than 19,000 supporters. Whale sharks are listed as a "threatened" species under international law and their trade is prohibited under the CITES agreement on the protection of endangered species. Whale sharks are filter feeders and so do not eat other fish, making them an ideal tourist attraction at the aquarium, which houses over 60,000 other fish. 7DAYS previously reported that singer Kylie Minogue had been dropped from the list of celebrity supporters of animal charity Marine Connection because she sang at Atlantis launch party in November.
Captain Australia Leave him in there. I went and had a look the other day and he looks awesome circling around the top with his pack of homies following him. Plus the tank is massive. Surely it's big enough for him. People get so worked up over one little fish. There are much better causes to put your energy into. kanelli This whale shark has lived in the wild and the ethical thing to do is to let it go back to its natural environment. If Atlantis wants a whale shark they should pay for the offspring of a captive whale shark born elsewhere/import an adult born and raised in captivity. michaeldubai
sure buddy. perhaps we should lock you up in the confines of you supposedly comfortable little flat for the rest of your life. I am sure you would look awesome circling your flat with your pack of homies too. Chocoholic I have boycotted Atlantis from the start! They are a bunch of liars! The whale-shark was never in distress or floundering, they paid fishermen to catch her, in fact they always wanted two! They promised to release her, but as yet have refused to give a date for this release, as we all know full well they never had any intention of putting her back into the wild. PETA have offered to cover the cost of release. Atlantis has been told by the local environment minister to let her go and still they refuse. These animals filter tonnes and tonnes of plankton to feed themselves, travelling thousands of miles across the oceans in the process - now how do you expect them feed her properly in a tank! Wake up! Not only that, because she is female it is even more important to get her released so she can breed and help the species to grow. Atlantis are scum as far as I'm concerned. rudeboy lol what difference does it make. i mean end of the day they will get a whale shark anyway. so whats the point of all this :S i dont get it. leave the shark there. she is getting looked after and she is much safer then being roasted by a fisher ;) Chocoholic Now if everyone took that attitude all the animals in the world would be exstinct in no time at all! It's wrong! The whale-shark is a protected species and they have no right to hold her in the first place. Your ignorance is astounding! smoggie I'm surprised that Atlantis has not been boycotted by Arabs anyway. Sol Kerzner being a 4 x 2 and a gambling magnate. But, yes....Free the shark! Anybody fancy marching on that place?? smoggladite Chocoholic We have discussed that possibility on the Face Book group (20,000 members FYI), however any direct action as you know is always frowned upon. So the approach is to boycott and get enough people to do so. The only way Atlantis will free her, is if they are hit in the pocket and have enough international pressure to do so. NB - Arabs love to gamble, so no chance of banning things like that. smoggie Choco....I agree, some people might get banged up and a few skulls might be cracked but think of the publicity dear girl. I think mr kerzner can afford to sit tight, holding young sammy hostage for as long as he pleases. Can Greenpeace not get involved?

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Chocoholic Greenpeace, PETA loads of conservation societies are already involved. If you;re on FB, here's the link to the group: #/group.php?gid=93869105312 smoggie will take a look later.....Don't get me wrong, I am not any sort of animal activist, I just hate the idea of A***holes making money out of this sort of thing! xdude I've been there and seen the majestic animal circling the tank..n u feel bad for the shark... its not meant to be there.. the shark has been brought up in open seas n sudden confinement must be maddening for her.. I wholeheartedly support the boycott.. Lets add a VOTE! to see how many in the expat community support it kanelli Some poster's mentality exactly explains why so many species are dying out around the world. Captain Australia Alright people. Let's not get carried away. You all think you're being environmental superheros by getting angry at the Altantis but your anger is misguided.
This is one fish. The oceans of our planet are being raped by commercial fishing and choked by pollution. Who's starting up facebook groups to save the Hammour from being wiped out in the Gulf? Who's campaigning against Japan for their overfishing of tuna? Who's protesting for tougher pollution regulations for ocean going ships? No one, lets all just spend months of our time getting mad over one fish, and if he is finally released we can all hang up our environment hats having done a good job.
It's just like (my blog link). It's such an emotional issue that people lose all rational thought. You're all complaining about the colour of the paint on the axe that is falling on your heads.
If you're just upset because you think it is cruel to keep him in there as opposed to environmental issues, I hope you are all vegan. Because he looked fine last time I saw him. Better condition at least than the cow who made the burger I just ate. kanelli Sorry, but many of us who are concerned about one fish also modify our eating, shopping, and living habits to try to protect species that are damaged by industry. In this modern world we have an impact on animals and the environment, but if people would be more conscientious about it, the impact can be lowered. It is better to do something than stand by and do nothing. uaekid give me the dam fish ,I'll deep fry it LOL Chocoholic
Typical!
Also the story about the number of illegal animal products confiscated by customs was shocking! I really really wonder about some people on the planet sometimes.
I really wonder about people here who think it's acceptable to keep big cats (de-clawed and de-fanged) as pets! Or chimps and other protected species, because it make them 'cool'.
The amount of dog fighting that goes on in this country is disgusting! And not much will be done about it, because sadly many of theose involved are policemen! - FACT from my vet, who normally gets called at 4am to patch the poor buggers up! michaeldubai
Captain, you're right in the fact that it is just one fish - would not impact the world population of whale sharks.
In general people here give a damn about the environment. You have millions of acres of land in the desert, but they will go and dump acres of land in the sea and build island - unnaturally. Anyway, mother nature has her own way of taking revenge. All it takes is one big wave........
Anyway getting back, think of the hysteria it created. Have you ever seen people in the uae raise voices on environmental concerns? There is a movement starting. Let it not die out.
Chocoholic
Okay so let's put it another way! It might be one fish! However, by Atlantis being allowed to keep it, sends the wrong message to other resorts, who would then go and do the same. So that 'one' fish becomes hundreds!
:roll: Geez look at the bigger picture would you! uaekid
Again dear chocoholic , you are not looking at the big picture. And always concentrate on what goes on UAE even thow You guys are the one who dose most of the impact on the world environment !! the industrial countries with it's pollution , the hunting clubs in Africa are westerns members and owners, don't you know that? the illegal fishing ! even the dog fights you worried about comes from your home country we buy them trained for fighting for you guys, don't you know that ? the factories in Asia that labor the children's over there are westerns, don't you know that?
Where do you stand in deporting over 30,000 east European families from UK and they are all legally there ? don't they have the right to live and work there
Where do you stand in all the above ? what is the effort you did to all of this? You are Concentrating you fight in the wrong place my dear.
stop being fake and lying to yourself honey.
fish right bshhhhhh
. Chocoholic Hey dude, I am a member of many organisations that deal with the above and actively work to fight such things, so stop judging before you even know that. uaekid
oh so you have a username and a password to log in to their sites, then what ?
you being a member and doing nothing but posting in a thread does not count dear. what activities did you participate in ? I guess non since you are busy with your life dear.. others unlike you are members who dedicated their time, money and years to help. please .DO NOT INCLUDE YOUR SELF TO BE ONE.
like I said before dear , there are ppl who are productive and there are the ones who think they are !
get real. Asmodai How old is this shark anyway? I heard that whale sharks live over a hundred years! I wonder by that time if Atlantis will be around....or it'll sink long before that? Chocoholic I don't have to justify or tell you anything 'dear'! As it happens I make lots of donations to various organisations and work to raise awareness. What do you do? Nowt I suspect. Chocoholic
In answer to your question, the lifespan of such animals is determined by the age they reach s.e.xual maturity, which in the case of a whaleshark is around 30 years old. The female at the Atlantis, is a juvenile. She could therefore feasibly live for over 100 years - IF she was in the wild.
Typically, whalesharks do not live for more than 3 or 4 years in captivity. Therefore she is doomed to die. naruto hahahhaah crying over a fish!!!!! if u want to save one..start by not eating them..and yes i mean all the fish.. why dont some of u cry about the people who died in GAZA ..well for u folks animals are better than humans ..i didnt see the people who boycotted atlantis do the same and boycott "ISRAEL" .. Chocoholic
Geez ignorance must be bliss for someone like you!
The reason we speak for animals dear intellectually challenged one, is because animals have no voice and no-one to stand up for them, so we have to do it. And typically someone like you couldn't possibly understand the fact that just because we care about animals, certainly doesn't mean we don't care about people! We can do both you know, it's a thing called multi-tasking? Something that I suspect is an alien concept to you. Del
The Israelis are using phosphorous weapons, children are dying of hunger in Third World countries and all the Germans can think of is a f*$%ing shark. Chocoholic Del, everything has it's place you know! It doesn't mean it's not an important cause! And it doesn't mean we're also not caring about other issues, it's one of many! If you don't support it, don't comment, plain and simple. Del
I said THE GERMANS, not DUBAI FORUMS.
Why don't they boycott their granny wants knob trips to west Africa on the grounds of the poverty there? Chocoholic AND so what? Good for the Germans! At least they say sense! More tour operators around the globe should boycott the Atlantis. kanelli Chocs, just ignore the troll. sharfraz who is the troll here? :roll: Del
That fat bird who just turned up. sharfraz insult for an insult...be fair and get fair!!!!!! 8) Chocoholic If you don't support the cause, then don't bother and let those of us who do get on with it. who you calling fat anyway, I don't think so! kanelli uaekid is troll #2, currently troll #1 is muslimbangladeshi These guys are on the forum just to be controversial and stir the pot so they can get attention from people. uaekid
LOL no not at all dear.. for a start I don't conceder you as people , and this needs another thread for me to explain !! and I have enough attention from people that I care about and . speaking of attention you need to pay it to your spouse instead of hanging around the net all the time LOL I guess he needs it more than I do LOL
I just post what I have to say and there is really no need for anyone to reply and trust me if I had anything better to do I wouldn't be posting here. But too much free time force you to have fun with it..
With regards
Your troll #2 :) smoggie UAE kid....are you on the dole? I wish I was on the dole again..... I bloody loved it! Beats working! Why are there so many young local guys doing coffee shop crawls during the day? Are they on the dole too? I love it at throwing out time when they become a bit unruly....throwing their weight around high on excessive amounts of caffeine. Disgusting it is! Del
NOT you... smoggie IS ANYONE CALLING ME FAT? EH? COME ON? TheChoosen I checked the homepage of this travelagency, NO word or banner about this issue, and, most funny: THEY EVEN DONT OFFER HOLIDAYS IN DUBAI OR VAE ! They are specialized on other countrys naruto
lol..we know animals have no voice ..thats why we eat them :D ..u are the ignorat here ..u say u stand for animals ..but at the same time u enjoy eating them..im confused here dear..if u support the ppl of GAZA did u wrote anything about their crisis and the war over there..dont tell me that u donate some of ur money to them ..we want to see some action some kung fu shittt ... 8) daisy
i also agree with u tht if as a human we just kept tht attitude then no animal will be left on earth.....but
Miss can i ask u smthing....and all other fellows tht wht about human race?
how insensitive we r about them/
Look whts happeneing in gaza....but we all r just arguing over whales...not humans and the little kids.
Sorry for all of us... TheChoosen Daisy, maybe you have a look at the topic, its not about Gaza. Feel free to open a new topic if you want to discuss about the mentioned circumstances, ok? uaekid
They act like they are some sophisticated men LOOOOL they don't even know what they are drinking LOL michaeldubai [quote="daisy"]
How the heck is Gaza related to a whale shark in Dubai? Chocoholic That's not my quote, so don't know what happened there. As usual some people find it difficult to comprehend the fact, that just because we stand up for animals, we somehow don't care about people! WRONG! This topic is about the whale-shark! If you wish to talk about human issues, open another thread on that topic. And Nurato or whatever the hell your name is, you are ridiculous! You don't get the point, so it's pointless talking to you, if you have nothing to contribute to the topic of releasing Sammy, then please don't bother. michaeldubai
On line 1, sorry about that, Choco. went wrong while deleting lines from daisy's quote.
Sorry but I am actually totally fed up with the way Gaza issue gets pushed into our faces in every single topic, on the forum and outside too. Captain Australia What about if Atlantis can keep the shark, but they have to pay like $100K to marine conservation or something?
Anyway, I must say that the Atlantis aquarium gets a big fail when it comes to marine education, especially about environmental issues affecting marine ecosystems (pollution, overfishing etc). They have one little card that tells you very little about the animals in the tank, let alone any issues affecting their survival.

Fair point, maybe I was a little harsh before. If lots of people get involved and win, then they move on to looking at other marine issues then it will be a good thing.
PS: God, what an absolute Shit fight some of these threads turn into. farthestpoint Atlantis started to kick out a lot of staff. Recession? Maybe. Boycott? Probably. Both? I guess so. 300 poor staff. 1 whale. I already formed a conclusion long time back. RobbyG
Indeed so. You want a Malteser too? Its a family bag... :lol:
:tongue8: rudeboy hell with the shark lol bloody free it and it will eat up some guy. leave it there otherwise some japanese fisher will make the sushi out of him. he is in safe location and getting food and mingling with all the other fish. what more could a fish want??????? if i was a shark and i was on the endagered list. i would wish someone would take me to their home or pond instead of me being eaten by the japs. hell there are better things to do then to argue about a shark thats bloody probably enjoying himself as we speak. bloody jobless ppl seriously :P come on peeps instead of freeing up a shark, y not hold a rally to stop war, to do something about aids or genocide or food shortage or even greedy landlords :D RobbyG
Anasammie BadBwoy, rudisome you éar! 8)
For your information:
A Whale shark is not a predator.
Its a filter-feeding shark and it only has two relatives; the megamouth shark and the basking shark. Your even able to swim with them and if your nice, you're able to scrub their belly's and scrape of some parasites... :lol:
It doesn't eat people Rudebwoy.
Now you know also :idea: rudeboy
robbyG us humans are predators. we are not filter feeding humans and we have many relatives i.e mum dad, bro sis grand parents etc the list goes on. You are not able to swim with humans if you make them angry (as shown on this forum) they will certainly bite.
now imaagine this, your sammy doing its thing off the coast of japan. he gets entagled or gets shot by the japs. the japs are hungry they have a huge relative list including chinese. they dont care if its a megamouth or a basking robins shark. as long as it tastes like SUSHI they will chase it and eat it.
if u ask ur sammy if he would like to become sushi or if he would like to be in a big pond. am sure he would prefer the later. i m sure i would :D rudeboy instead of making sushi out of sammy. i say we get him mrs sammy. so they mate have babies. and then maybe mr and mrs sammy can become grand parents etc etc. you have controlled breeding system and then probably sammy wouldnt be on the endagered species list. freeing the fish would lower his chances of survival. us humans are horrible monsters. already we have destroyed the rain forest we got the global warming going on. and i m sure once he is freed someone will mince him up and make a shurma out of him. RobbyG Wrong again :) we humans are omnivorous. We eat plants and a bit of meat. We do tend to life in coexistence, especially among developed ones. Some of us do tend to reach out to interventionism, and the former US President abused that UN measure a bit. Some of us are actually filter-feeding. That are the ones with the weak oral muscles and tend to drewl at moments. (MB, Gayboy etc.) Enough of the funny nonsense. Save the Whale Shark. Where's the petition and where do I sign!! BlackburnRovers There is a particular attitude towards animal abuse which I find a bit dusturbing...... If an animal is abused, (e.g. cats thrown from cars, dogs beaten), and someone points it out, a very popular reply is "Children and innocents are being killed in Country X, and you are talking about animals being killed?)". I have never really understood this notion that if people are suffering in a particular area, it justifies others suffering as long as they are suffering less........ michaeldubai
BBRovers, trust me - it doesnt come up only with animals, it comes during any discussion of anything under the sun! Chocoholic Rudeboy, don't you read anything? Sammy is FEMALE! They will not breed in captivity and only reach s.e.xual maturity at around 30 years, sammy is maybe 3 or 4 years old, so you'd be waiting along time. Plus she's die way before that. Whale-sharks are rarely hunted, they are protected. And if you'd been watching such incidents, you'd know that Greenpeace, Sea Shephard and the Steve Irwin have foiled the Japanese whale hunt for this season! michaeldubai Steve Irwin??? Didnt he pass away in 2006?????? Chocoholic Yes, the ship they use is called the Steve Irwin! It runs alongside the Rainbow Warrior. rudeboy
bloody hell it cant breed for another 26 years. I say we let the fish out and it dies. oh well better then waiting for bloody 26 years to loose your virginity init :D
if it was protected why is it on the endagered species list :S
i would wish the greenpeace would stop prince charles and mrs charles from hunting the fox. but they wont and we all know why :D
instead of saving the fish. save the FOX. atleast that doesnt have to wait for 30 years to mate. foxes are more cuter then the black and white fish.
save the fox TheChoosen You forgot the goldfish in Del´s shoe(':crybaby:') rudeboy yeh free the goldfish in dels shoe atleast IT will mate later or sooner. bloody sammy wont mate for another 30 years. that is bloody gay. i hope she gets free and some sudanese pirates capture her and ask for ransom :D pete t and people wonder why the big issues never get fixed .... Chocoholic
Fox hunting IS banned in the UK! You can do drag hunting - where a hunt leader leaves a scent for the hounds to follow, but there is no kill at the end of it. TheChoosen Poor dogs, they must feel really cheated':bunny:' RobbyG
Greenpeace suspended it actions for this (or was it last) year as they have information of Japan being less willing to fish these animals only for its fins. Some uproar in domestic groups made that change possible.
Now Greenpeace focusses on other issues, as their budget is also limited in times of economic hardship. But progess is being made.
Fortunately... :) rudeboy
ban bloody drag hunting. i mean the dogs do all the running and they dont even get a biscuit after all that. ban it.



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