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Assault in office


michaeldubai At a satellite office of an oil company in abu dhabi, a maintenanance staff supervisor (palestinian) assaults an indian cleaner by breaking a bottle on his head. The guy is bleeding profusely and manages to tell a few people who come to his help that the supervisor assulted him. He then passes out. Police and ambulance are called. Here's the disgusting part. Some of the arab staff tell the police that the injury was self-inflicted. Although the conversation was in arabic, another non-arab staff member was able to understand what was being said. No mention of the supervisor was made. And he was not arrested or questioned by the police. No other staff were questioned. The police just took in what these few guys said. Now the sad part is there is a high chance that the Indian cleaner may get arrested for no fault of his - on grounds of attempted suicide. While this palestinian guy walks free. Honestly, what the heck!
worldguy Why can't you do something about it? worldguy This sure does take a cake. As its said, an act of hatred breeds hatred. That's why justice is key. uaekid the sad part my friend is you not knowing that there are translators in every police station and court . now if the Indian guy insisted that the Palestinian was the one who injured him, it won't be a rocket science to prove it since no one attempt suicide by breaking a bottle on his head !! beside if the case is as told, police lab can get the finger print of the class and determine if it's true or not.. BlackburnRovers Well, when Israel bombed Palestine, did you start a post on it? The supervisor is a Palestinian and we should support him in solidarity with what is happening in Palestine..... For all we know the Indian may have been instigated by Zionists to start a fight.... worldguy How did we all miss this blackburnrovers? I see you are trying to justify one wrong deed by protecting another wrong deed. Mate this will only blur the difference between what is right and wrong. Stand up when you see something wrong and support when you something right. you will gain more respect. This way you just made me realise maybe there might be another angle to everything, including one raised by you. BlackburnRovers Worldguy.......check oit what sarcasm means in a dictionary...... ;) kanelli
This is an injustice and it must be stopped. Does anyone still have the bottle that the guy was hit with? They may be able to get the supervisor's fingerprints off the glass and it could help support the worker's story about the assault. Anyone who witnessed it should speak up, and those who he told should report that this was the worker's story when he came to them bleeding. BlackburnRovers If the supervisor has a good relation with the GM, I wouldnt be surprised if any employee who tells the true version is threatened with dismissal. kanelli I would tell the truth, even if it meant my job. You should never let down a person who comes to you assaulted and injured. One day it might happen to you, and you wouldn't want to be screwed over.

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michaeldubai
This is what transpired. I dont work there but my friend does and he was all shaken up when he called me to tell what happened. First of all he didnt expect them to protect the supervisor and came to know of it only later when the police left. He doesnt know whether to go forward or not. one thing is for sure - his managers all seem to protect the palestenian guy.
another problem is what happens when the guy regains consiousness. he was unconsious when the police/medicals came. So his statement will be taken in the hospital. I just hope they dont make him sign something written in arabic. To hell with the translators - i know enough people have fallen into deep shit by signing papers written in arabic at police stations. michaeldubai by the way - just so you know - these cleaners get a salary of 600 dhs per month. what a life huh? and they have to go through this additional hell of mad people. uaekid
don't balm anyone if you are weak and don't know the system and can't stand up for your self ,you have the right not to sign unless you know what's in it beside a lawyer and the embassy representative, let him now that, the Indian guy could throw every one who testified falsely in jail too, it's miss leading authorities. keep us posted.. uaekid beside, when you know the true story why are you posting in DF and not in the police station testifying against the Palestinian ? Red Chief
because he was not an eyewitness, I think. michaeldubai
uaekid, dont get overexcited you dope. If you bothered to read my prev post properly you'll know why I am not giving my statement myself.
Anyway - update: the supervisor has been taken in for questioning based on the statement given by the cleaner. worldguy UAEkid thanks for the bit. I never knew if had the right to not sign anything in arabic. I am learning arabic though as if I ever fall in trouble the last thing I want is people around me talking in arabic and then I am finished. Wish only they had good arabic teachers in UAE. Most of them do not do with the intention to teach, but to make hourly rates. michaeldubai
In your ideal pefect run by the textbook world - this would be the case. In the case of a harassed, poor, hammered expat - I dont think so.
"balming" people may be your faourite pastime - not mine buddy
uaekid then regardless of how the case will turn you jumped to conclusions based on a phone call !! for all we know it could be a self defense and that your friend hates the Palestinian guy, we all hate supervisors LOL !! best wishes for the Indian guy, I guess he can sue the whole companies for this
uaekid
they are both expats !! michaeldubai
maybe I was wrong - I dont know - the case is not closed. he is just taken for questioning. remember that many of the arab guys sided with the supervisor. So its 5 people's word against one. he can still very well get away with it. Misery Called Life Lot of questions need to be answered First A bottle of what did he slam into the workers head? Then, why did he do it? Who called the police and ambulance? Why wasn't there First aid on site? Where was the worker found? If it's an attempted suicide then he wouldn't commit it by banging his head with a glass bottle, let alone in full public view... In such a case the cops would have to resort to a statement made by the supervisor, and only if it were self defense can the supervisor be let off. Too many loopholes dude, we need more info! uaekid yaa if the investigators are from idiots type ... Bora Bora
Your friend is between a rock and a hard place.
To step up and do the right thing would result in one of two things:
get fired (or made "redunant"), or become a target to his superiors and be ostrazised by his co-workers to the point of forcing him to leave, and he will never get a good reference for another job.
In today's environment I am sure he cannot afford to be made "redundant" nor would he want to work under stressful conditions. Somethings doing the wrong thing, by being quiet, is the only way to go. Although, having said that, I would certainly try to meet with the worker who was injured and explain why I could not come forward.
It's easy to say what he should or shouldn't do. If it were me, I would know in my heart that in spite of wanting to do the right thing, circumstances prevent me from doing so.
The other "witnesses" are openly siding with the supervisor in all probability in fear for their job.
Tell your friend that this is out of his hands. PointGiven
We need to get IDF involved. kanelli I'd still tell the truth because it would eat away at my conscience. However, as Bora Bora suggested it is a good idea for your coworker to at least talk to the Indian guy and explain why he is protecting his own butt if he does choose to keep quiet with boss and the police. Maybe it would ease his conscience a little bit. zukku
Yea here v go... the stupid "rules" in here, even the sheikhs do this. UAETORTUE will be a TV series soon. michaeldubai
well said and true. Thanks. I know what I would have done. But I can only advise as you siad and not force someone. Lets hope for the best. zukku
or just say UAE type Red Chief
How it's true. I think he will reach even better results by uniting with those guys as an eyewitness of the suicide.
He could be even promoted then. worldguy You can be really nasty with your sarcasm. worldguy Keep us updated regarding what happens. Bora Bora
It was said with "tongue in cheek" WG. worldguy I was talking about red Chief. The point you raised is what most people will think. Its a world controlled my money power and I believe there is only one religion. Money!!! Bora Bora
I know you were directing it at RC. And he was being sarcastic. What does money have to do with his sarcasm and the events that took place? You need to stay on track WG. DDS It's useless explaining to someone dense, BB. ***** I've heard about a case also of a filipino waiter getting slapped in the head and nape for no reason at all by a lebanese chef in a restaurant in Dubai Mall. Fortunately, the management found out about the incident and investigated, which the chef said was only a joke. They promised to kick the chef out according to my friend who was there. Not sure though if they really did the firing as of now since it only happened this week. My question, is it an arab thing to slap or be physical to their underlings? I know most of these flips don't take it lightly when aggrieved physically more so without any reason even if they look docile and meek as i've witnessed it several times. Bora Bora
Ahhhhhh. Sorry, couldn't help my self. :D
WG is a challenge and a work in progress. Stick around and you will see.
Welcome to DF. PointGiven
No, It's not an Arab thing. These are exceptions, they don't make the rule. Still there is justcie out there, and those responsible for these acts, should be held responsible and be punished to the full extent of the law. Bora Bora
More often than not verbal abuse is big here on those people who are seen as holding lower positions. Those people who verbally abuse and demoralize people do to make themselves feel important, powerful and superior. When in reality they are very small people looked down upon by those who have any self-respect and who know better. PointGiven
I agree, we need to earn respect, we don't just deserve it. Putting down others, is just a sign of lack of confidence in my opinion. I am new here, so I am reading these forums non stop to get a glimpse at life here in Dubai:) Regards Mr/Mrs Bora Bora. Bora Bora
New in Dubai as well? If so, welcome. Where are you from?
You will see that there are serious subjects and alot of not-so-serious subjects but you just need to filter out alot.
Regards,
BB PointGiven
Algeria, but been living in US, UK and France for the last 21 years. Thanks for the welcome. You from the beautiful Bora Bora Island? Bora Bora
From US - New York. worldguy Ahhhhhh. Sorry, couldn't help my self. :D
WG is a challenge and a work in progress. Stick around and you will see.
Welcome to DF.
you are such a baby Bora Bora. How cute. Wish only you stepped out enough (Bora Bora - I mean - to see the world) to realise that those were 2 diff (Bora Bora - this means different) statements. You are so thick skinned that everything needs to be explained literally to you. So, here you go and I know you are work in progress, but will get there eventually.
The mney power meant that the people on top have the power to control as the worker needs the job and for the fear of losing his job, he might actually make statements that might be away from the truth.
DDS this whole forum is a work in progress where everybody is helping each other growing. Again learn to read between lines.
I better get ready as emotional Bora Bora will take this personally and claw her way in with those ferocious eyes.
Alas Bora Bora .... you do show Arab traits even though ya bred in US of A. (Ooops, did I just generalise)
I thought I would not respond to ur daily dose of ****, but can't see you falling all the time. Bora Bora
Well I will take the Arab traits comment as a compliment. Oh, wait, aren't they on your neverending hate list?
You really need to work on developing a sense of humor. You are absolutely humorless. I guess it's that "I'm saving the world" mantra of yours that keeps you so serious.
You need to learn to laugh a bit more. Lighten up. PointGiven
Nice, Washigton DC for 15 years. worldguy Well I will take the Arab traits comment as a compliment. Oh, wait, aren't they on your neverending hate list?
You really need to work on developing a sense of humor. You are absolutely humorless. I guess it's that "I'm saving the world" mantra of yours that keeps you so serious.
You need to learn to laugh a bit more. Lighten up.
Seriously Bora Bora, read posts the way they are written and not the way you want to interpret them. At no point I mentioned I hate Arabs or anybody else for that matter (un like you who dislike South Asians). I conitnue mentioning that UAE suffers from stereo types and we should move away from that and look at judging each individual individually. That's the difference between a well educated, well groomed, travelled, matured individual and wannabes that we see in UAE.
I change as per the posts and try and add value to them rather than making some baseless comments. Humor has its place and so does serious comments. Its been a while I mentioned regarding "I'm saving the world" mantra, thus get over it. Do not stay focussed in the past and see what i am posting in the present.
I laugh a lot more than you and lighten up as well, but not when posts are serious are impacting somebody. If you want to funn y always, there are other forums in Dubai forums where you can be that. Bora Bora
Seriously Bora Bora, read posts the way they are written and not the way you want to interpret them. At no point I mentioned I hate Arabs or anybody else for that matter (un like you who dislike South Asians). I conitnue mentioning that UAE suffers from stereo types and we should move away from that and look at judging each individual individually. That's the difference between a well educated, well groomed, travelled, matured individual and wannabes that we see in UAE.
I change as per the posts and try and add value to them rather than making some baseless comments. Humor has its place and so does serious comments. Its been a while I mentioned regarding "I'm saving the world" mantra, thus get over it. Do not stay focussed in the past and see what i am posting in the present.
I laugh a lot more than you and lighten up as well, but not when posts are serious are impacting somebody. If you want to funn y always, there are other forums in Dubai forums where you can be that.
OK. Got my serious hat on here. :|
I have no problems with South Asians.
You on the other hand have a problem with Westerners based on your many,many negative comments about them.
Your reference to me having Arab ways, I am sure, was not a compliment from you.
You are not the Ambassador of the UAE. The UAE doesn't need you, an expat, to represent them or be their voice.
I take one person at a time. I start off with a even level of respect regardless of who they are, where they come from or what their station in life is. worldguy That's great Bora Bora, regarding you last line. That makes you a human with a heart, which I know if there as that's why you react so passionately. That's a thing I like about you. (Now you would go thinking - hmmm ... he dislikes everything else about me. NO, I just do not anything else about you at this point of time. simple) I am a westerner myself, but dislike the lot here. There are reasons strong enough as they represent my country and I am not happy with that. A lot of people here or not as certain countries are lot different than the way its represented. The culture and traditions are some how forgotten in the heat and lure for dollars. Arab ways is just a style of living. It was no way a compliment or other way. Its a style of living and some people will like it and some will not. You assumed that I meant it in negative sense. this is where I have an issue with you. We all are ambassador of UAE, if we stay here long enough. Specially to those who earn their bread and butter from here and go back to their home countries with bigger bank balances. UAE has impacted so many lives that expat need to be ambassador and give UAE its due credit for enriching their lives. Also how do you know UAE does not need expats. All the govt officials and locals share my view point and fell that expats should care more for the country that is currently feeding them. Bora Bora
Fair enough.

Like me, dislike me, that is your choice as it doesn't matter to me either way.
As for Westerners here in the UAE. I have seen almost every nationality take on an air of self-importance and entitlement here and treat people in a way that they would never dream of or get away with back "home" or dare to even try. They wouldn't even treat the grocery store clerk back "home" the way they treat some people here.
As for who we are in the UAE, we are guests and we are expected to act as such. Which is bascially respect the culture and the laws. I strongly believe in standing up for ones humanitarian rights but where I can do it freely.
I have a person who cleans my apartment once a week that when she called me madam the first time I made it very clear that she should call me "XXXX", not madam. I love this girl, whose husband is currently unemployed and their children are in the Phillipines. In my own small way I try to help her out, without making her feel that I am being charitable.
As for me taking on living an Arab style, well since I'm married to one it would have an influence on me. I am able to take the best of it and bring it into my life. My husband has taken the best of my Western lifestyle and brought it into his life. Best of both worlds. worldguy This makes a well rounded person and like your gesture towards the maid. Maybe my approach of highlighting this was wrong, but you sum it up. Too much of cleaning our souls, lets get back to clawing and cold stares. Misery Called Life :sleepy1: somebody wake me up when this is over Lets go back to the assault case..... Any updates? Bora Bora
Sorry, lost it for a moment and retracted my nails.
I'm OK now. What to fight? worldguy Any update on what happened with the guy? michaeldubai well, supervisor released from jail yesterday. he was taken in two days ago based on the statement of the worker. worker was released from hospital the day before. no case against him. cant figure out why the supervisor was released though. difficult to get additional details. worldguy Could you figure out the reality? Tim Patterson this is a scary thread .... i hope everything works out for the best for those involved.



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