ADSL internet rates in the UAE vs taiwan

Stylinexpat &type=service&contentid=855d1755596a8110VgnVCM1000000c24a8c0RCRD&currentid=875059ecfb01a010VgnVCM1000003c05000a____ #4 In Taiwan for 8M/640K you are looking at roughly 104 Dhms. per month while in the UAE Etisalat offers 4M download speeds for 449 Dhms. which is more than 4 times the amount for half the speed. 2M download in Taiwan is available for roughly 86 Dhms while in the UAE it is 349 Dhms. I am wondering how Dubai will compete with Asia for trade when the government has a monopoly on its telecom sector and charges 4 times more for its ADSL services than those in Asia. The monopoly either has to go or they need to drop their prices to where they don't gouge their customers. Gouging in Islam is considered harahm or not halal. A profit is reasonable but 4 times the amount of what others are charging is considered gouging. Employees that work for Etisalat in the UAE do not receive the same salaries that emplyees do in Europe or the US so there is no reason for gouging on monthly service plans. Discuss or share your thoughts...

Nucleus I agree with u RobbyG Those connections you mentioned aren't that quick compared to Europe. Here in Holland I (or we) have fierce competition for ADSL broadband internet and the upcoming glasfiber network is starting to gain ground. For cable ADSL I pay approx 20 euro's (95 Dhs) for a 20Mbit down/1Mbit up connection a month. Depending on the range to the provider service center, you have a download speed of max. 1024 kb/sec. Mighty fast for a few pennies a month. :cyclopsani: If Dubai wants to be on top of the world, they should need the newer standards of optic cables that emerge now. I wonder what they use now...ISDN based ADSL? sage & onion

RobbyG wrote:
Those connections you mentioned aren't that quick compared to Europe.
Here in Holland I (or we) have fierce competition for ADSL broadband internet and the upcoming glasfiber network is starting to gain ground.
For cable ADSL I pay approx 20 euro's (95 Dhs) for a 20Mbit down/1Mbit up connection a month. Depending on the range to the provider service center, you have a download speed of max. 1024 kb/sec.
Mighty fast for a few pennies a month. :cyclopsani:
If Dubai wants to be on top of the world, they should need the newer standards of optic cables that emerge now. I wonder what they use now...ISDN based ADSL?

Now you are talking, these speeds are just not available here. Stylinexpat

RobbyG wrote:
Those connections you mentioned aren't that quick compared to Europe.
Here in Holland I (or we) have fierce competition for ADSL broadband internet and the upcoming glasfiber network is starting to gain ground.
For cable ADSL I pay approx 20 euro's (95 Dhs) for a 20Mbit down/1Mbit up connection a month. Depending on the range to the provider service center, you have a download speed of max. 1024 kb/sec.
Mighty fast for a few pennies a month. :cyclopsani:
If Dubai wants to be on top of the world, they should need the newer standards of optic cables that emerge now. I wonder what they use now...ISDN based ADSL?

They also have quicker connections here in Taiwan. The link I provided showed what was curently being discounted because there were other faster speeds available which most people used. They also have the new Fiber optic line here in Taiwan :wink: I used that comparisson as a basic comparisson to show just how expensive Dubai's rates were with their current monopoly on their telecom sector. I have a 12M/2M upload speeds at my shop and believe their speeds here also go up to 20M for downloads. Stylinexpat Here is an example of what DTAC charges for unlimited useage in Thailand for their Mobile data packages: http://www.dtac.co.th/eng/package/internet_package.html 999 Baht for unlimited use is roughly 105 Dhms where as Etisalat Charges a whopping 460 Dhms. per month. :shock: http://www.dtac.co.th/eng/package/internet_package.html &type=package&currentid=577059ecfb01a010VgnVCM1000003c05000a____&contentid=483d0695915f5110VgnVCM1000000c24a8c0RCRD&offer=Package&order=2 Here in Taiwan they charge 699 NT for a monthly unlimited plan which comes out to about 87 Dhms. per month. The plan in Thailand is for Edge GPRS service as they don't yet have 3.5G service but will in the near future and the plan in Taiwan is the same as it is in Dubai for the 3.5G services. Again here Etisalat gouges customers over 4 times of what other providers charge their customers overseas. pete t The UAE is Far cheaper and Better value then Australia in OZ nearly ALL plans have a 40 gig caps ( or less ) per month some you can more after hours, But Over all YOu will go over your limit with ..well normal Internet useage... But I'm with DU But I LOVE the UAE DSL !! :D xero_ this monopoly has been ranted and discussed way too much already in the last 10 years. the greedy owner just wont do anything about it. all he cares is the money he is raking in so he can have more holidays and drive nice cars. :x sage & onion

Stylinexpat wrote:
Here is an example of what DTAC charges for unlimited useage in Thailand for their Mobile data packages:
http://www.dtac.co.th/eng/package/internet_package.html
999 Baht for unlimited use is roughly 105 Dhms where as Etisalat Charges a whopping 460 Dhms. per month. :shock:
http://www.dtac.co.th/eng/package/internet_package.html
&type=package&currentid=577059ecfb01a010VgnVCM1000003c05000a____&contentid=483d0695915f5110VgnVCM1000000c24a8c0RCRD&offer=Package&order=2
Here in Taiwan they charge 699 NT for a monthly unlimited plan which comes out to about 87 Dhms. per month. The plan in Thailand is for Edge GPRS service as they don't yet have 3.5G service but will in the near future and the plan in Taiwan is the same as it is in Dubai for the 3.5G services. Again here Etisalat gouges customers over 4 times of what other providers charge their customers overseas.

What else is good in Taiwan? Stylinexpat

sage & onion wrote:
- Stylinexpat wrote:
  Here is an example of what DTAC charges for unlimited useage in Thailand for their Mobile data packages:
  http://www.dtac.co.th/eng/package/internet_package.html
  999 Baht for unlimited use is roughly 105 Dhms where as Etisalat Charges a whopping 460 Dhms. per month. :shock:
  http://www.dtac.co.th/eng/package/internet_package.html
  &type=package&currentid=577059ecfb01a010VgnVCM1000003c05000a____&contentid=483d0695915f5110VgnVCM1000000c24a8c0RCRD&offer=Package&order=2
  Here in Taiwan they charge 699 NT for a monthly unlimited plan which comes out to about 87 Dhms. per month. The plan in Thailand is for Edge GPRS service as they don't yet have 3.5G service but will in the near future and the plan in Taiwan is the same as it is in Dubai for the 3.5G services. Again here Etisalat gouges customers over 4 times of what other providers charge their customers overseas.
What else is good in Taiwan?

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pete t wrote:
The UAE is Far cheaper and Better value then Australia
in OZ nearly ALL plans have a 40 gig caps ( or less ) per month
some you can more after hours, But Over all YOu will go over your limit with ..well normal Internet useage...
But I'm with DU But I LOVE the UAE DSL !! :D

That is pretty screwed. What are the rates in Australia on a monthly basis for cell data useage and home internet (ADSL) ? Red Chief Landline internet is rather expensive but internet via GPRS (mobile phone) is out of range. I just wonder if somebody use it on regular basis here. naruto That what we call imperfect competetion..where etisalat is the only provider for the internet and communication in UAE ..Du is just to make our market sound like a free market ..and etisalat suxx big time .. andrewg yeah. I don't know where they get these prices. They don't have a competitor that's why. People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in... naruto ^^agree and the quality of the service is bad ..etisalat charge us more than any internet provider in the world although they use fiber optic for internet connection where in EU and they use satalite which is faster and more efficient Stylinexpat I think Etisalat or the UAE government can try and catch up with Korea for a start.. / Stylinexpat

andrewg wrote:
yeah. I don't know where they get these prices.
They don't have a competitor that's why.
People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in...

What's funny is how Etisalat bids for foreign telecom projects overseas and yet won't allow allow any telecome companies into their own country to compete with them. If I were other countries I would never allow a telecom provider to operate in my country when they themselves don't allow any others to operate in their country. One must be fair, you open your telecom services and we will open ours in return.. One must take and give these days.
In my opinion the Emirates has years to go yet before they catch up to modern nations. The local stock market is another example which offers no futures,no put, no calls, no shorting etc.. Look at how many telecom providers there are in Thailand and how many there are in the UAE. Expat

sage & onion wrote:
- Stylinexpat wrote:
  Here is an example of what DTAC charges for unlimited useage in Thailand for their Mobile data packages:
  999 Baht for unlimited use is roughly 105 Dhms where as Etisalat Charges a whopping 460 Dhms. per month. :shock:
  Here in Taiwan they charge 699 NT for a monthly unlimited plan which comes out to about 87 Dhms. per month. The plan in Thailand is for Edge GPRS service as they don't yet have 3.5G service but will in the near future and the plan in Taiwan is the same as it is in Dubai for the 3.5G services. Again here Etisalat gouges customers over 4 times of what other providers charge their customers overseas.
What else is good in Taiwan?

i guess girls Red Chief

What else is good in Taiwan?

The tallest building in the World. I doubt that it's good in so seismic region...

uaekid

Stylinexpat wrote:
- andrewg wrote:
  yeah. I don't know where they get these prices.
  They don't have a competitor that's why.
  People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in...
What's funny is how Etisalat bids for foreign telecom projects overseas and yet won't allow allow any telecome companies into their own country to compete with them. If I were other countries I would never allow a telecom provider to operate in my country when they themselves don't allow any others to operate in their country. One must be fair, you open your telecom services and we will open ours in return.. One must take and give these days.
In my opinion the Emirates has years to go yet before they catch up to modern nations. The local stock market is another example which offers no futures,no put, no calls, no shorting etc.. Look at how many telecom providers there are in Thailand and how many there are in the UAE.

don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..
it is not about allowing or not, but its about the best quality! I believe Etislate is doing v.well in this field and one of the best tele companies that provide whats new in telecommunication if you rank them world wide and that�s why other countries seek their services . .
it is idiotaic to use the word monopoly since there is another company that operate the same business ,or do I have to define what monopoly is ?.
what is important to me is that Etislate contribute to the country big social funds like shak zaid housing project and the marriage funds..
I don't think there are many companies that compete with Etislate and if there will be , they wont contribute as much as Etislate..
Sorry but your judgment is v.poor to the subject sir. zzzane Agree with all the way through but...

Stylinexpat wrote:
Employees that work for Etisalat in the UAE do not receive the same salaries that emplyees do in Europe or the US so there is no reason for gouging on monthly service plans.

I'm sorry but you're grossly misinformed. What makes you say that? Have you ever worked for an ISP or network provider in Europe? Based on my observation, Etisalat and Du employees receive more than their counterparts at most companies in Europe and the U.S. Stylinexpat

Expat wrote:
- sage & onion wrote:
  - Stylinexpat wrote:
    Here is an example of what DTAC charges for unlimited useage in Thailand for their Mobile data packages:
    999 Baht for unlimited use is roughly 105 Dhms where as Etisalat Charges a whopping 460 Dhms. per month. :shock:
    Here in Taiwan they charge 699 NT for a monthly unlimited plan which comes out to about 87 Dhms. per month. The plan in Thailand is for Edge GPRS service as they don't yet have 3.5G service but will in the near future and the plan in Taiwan is the same as it is in Dubai for the 3.5G services. Again here Etisalat gouges customers over 4 times of what other providers charge their customers overseas.
  What else is good in Taiwan?
That I forgot to mention :lol: No shortage of Pus*y here and that too goes for 1/4 of the price of what it goes for in Dubai LOL...
i guess girls

Stylinexpat

Red Chief wrote:
- What else is good in Taiwan?
The tallest building in the World. I doubt that it's good in so seismic region...

We don't get too much quake activity here in Taiwan though we have had our shares of a few quakes :? I would hate to be any where near that 101 tower were there ever to be a quake here in Taiwan ( God forbid). Red Chief

uaekid wrote:

don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..

Applause! Red Chief Double post Stylinexpat

uaekid wrote:
- Stylinexpat wrote:
  - andrewg wrote:
    yeah. I don't know where they get these prices.
    They don't have a competitor that's why.
    People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in...
  What's funny is how Etisalat bids for foreign telecom projects overseas and yet won't allow allow any telecome companies into their own country to compete with them. If I were other countries I would never allow a telecom provider to operate in my country when they themselves don't allow any others to operate in their country. One must be fair, you open your telecom services and we will open ours in return.. One must take and give these days.
  In my opinion the Emirates has years to go yet before they catch up to modern nations. The local stock market is another example which offers no futures,no put, no calls, no shorting etc.. Look at how many telecom providers there are in Thailand and how many there are in the UAE.
don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..
it is not about allowing or not, but its about the best quality! I believe Etislate is doing v.well in this field and one of the best tele companies that provide whats new in telecommunication if you rank them world wide and that�s why other countries seek their services . .
it is idiotaic to use the word monopoly since there is another company that operate the same business ,or do I have to define what monopoly is ?.
what is important to me is that Etislate contribute to the country big social funds like shak zaid housing project and the marriage funds..
I don't think there are many companies that compete with Etislate and if there will be , they wont contribute as much as Etislate..
Sorry but your judgment is v.poor to the subject sir.

DU operates under Etisalat meaning there is only one operator which fits under monopoly. A monopoly does not exist when the UAE allows another competitor to enter the market. Etisalat is government owned and that makes it a monopoly :wink:
It is not up to Etisalat to allow but since Etisalat is owned by the government there is not much of a difference. The government takes good care of the locals (Don't get me wrong) but that is also at the expense of those spending expats in the UAE :wink: Stylinexpat

Red Chief wrote:
- uaekid wrote:
  
  don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..
Applause!

More on that applause here :wink:
http://www.american.edu/carmel/lr2962a/liberal.html uaekid

Stylinexpat wrote:
- uaekid wrote:
  - Stylinexpat wrote:
    - andrewg wrote:
      yeah. I don't know where they get these prices.
      They don't have a competitor that's why.
      People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in...
    What's funny is how Etisalat bids for foreign telecom projects overseas and yet won't allow allow any telecome companies into their own country to compete with them. If I were other countries I would never allow a telecom provider to operate in my country when they themselves don't allow any others to operate in their country. One must be fair, you open your telecom services and we will open ours in return.. One must take and give these days.
    In my opinion the Emirates has years to go yet before they catch up to modern nations. The local stock market is another example which offers no futures,no put, no calls, no shorting etc.. Look at how many telecom providers there are in Thailand and how many there are in the UAE.
  don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..
  it is not about allowing or not, but its about the best quality! I believe Etislate is doing v.well in this field and one of the best tele companies that provide whats new in telecommunication if you rank them world wide and that�s why other countries seek their services . .
  it is idiotaic to use the word monopoly since there is another company that operate the same business ,or do I have to define what monopoly is ?.
  what is important to me is that Etislate contribute to the country big social funds like shak zaid housing project and the marriage funds..
  I don't think there are many companies that compete with Etislate and if there will be , they wont contribute as much as Etislate..
  Sorry but your judgment is v.poor to the subject sir.
DU operates under Etisalat meaning there is only one operator which fits under monopoly. A monopoly does not exist when the UAE allows another competitor to enter the market. Etisalat is government owned and that makes it a monopoly :wink:
It is not up to Etisalat to allow but since Etisalat is owned by the government there is not much of a difference. The government takes good care of the locals (Don't get me wrong) but that is also at the expense of those spending expats in the UAE :wink:

says who ? the 1000 years old site you just posted ? uaekid you seem to be v. interested in UAE business for a guy who lives in Taiwan !! why ? do you won a tele company? do you wana get etisalate account? ae they sending you any bills to pay? Stylinexpat

uaekid wrote:
you seem to be v. interested in UAE business for a guy who lives in Taiwan !! why ? do you won a tele company? do you wana get etisalate account? ae they sending you any bills to pay?

What do you think of the new Iphone prices from Etisalat?
naruto

uaekid wrote:
- Stylinexpat wrote:
  - andrewg wrote:
    yeah. I don't know where they get these prices.
    They don't have a competitor that's why.
    People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in...
  What's funny is how Etisalat bids for foreign telecom projects overseas and yet won't allow allow any telecome companies into their own country to compete with them. If I were other countries I would never allow a telecom provider to operate in my country when they themselves don't allow any others to operate in their country. One must be fair, you open your telecom services and we will open ours in return.. One must take and give these days.
  In my opinion the Emirates has years to go yet before they catch up to modern nations. The local stock market is another example which offers no futures,no put, no calls, no shorting etc.. Look at how many telecom providers there are in Thailand and how many there are in the UAE.
don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..
it is not about allowing or not, but its about the best quality! I believe Etislate is doing v.well in this field and one of the best tele companies that provide whats new in telecommunication if you rank them world wide and that�s why other countries seek their services . .
it is idiotaic to use the word monopoly since there is another company that operate the same business ,or do I have to define what monopoly is ?.
what is important to me is that Etislate contribute to the country big social funds like shak zaid housing project and the marriage funds..
I don't think there are many companies that compete with Etislate and if there will be , they wont contribute as much as Etislate..
Sorry but your judgment is v.poor to the subject sir.

i disagree with u ..
i have a Q for u ..are u happy with etisalat service..im not happy ..the highest internet speed we get from itisalat is 8mb correct me if im wrong..however in other countrys it exceed 30mb.. so how come etisalat provide the best Quality or service..etisalat provided the 3G service in 2006 where vodafon had it since 2003..we are late in every thing ..plus its funny how they charge us ..why etisalat charge me 450 for 4mb ..its way expensive..my internet got Disconnected one day and i called them to see what is the problem, it took them 1 month just to repair it ..and if u want a refund for the month u had without internet u will go through hell..also the new wireless internet USB, do u know how much it cost..they will tell u that u have to pay only 500 dh per month but they dont tell u how much it cost per MB or each downloaded content..some ppl bills reached thousands..this is cheating ..for me as cosumer i do care about the service and it cost ..if im not happy with etisalat and want to change my internet provider do i have any options..no ..Du operate under etisalat supervision ..so yes etisalat play the monopoly ..there are no competitors and etisalat can do whatever they want ..if u are not happy with my service ..u will live without internet or communicatins. RobbyG

Prices for Internet service are comparably higher than that of the United States. It is approximately $23.00 per month for 10 hours of service and an additional $1.77 for every hour after that.
[end quote]
This quote comes from the website given above.
I wonder if these numbers are still correct? Can anyone tell me whether it has improved by now?
Thnx uaekid
- naruto wrote:
  - uaekid wrote:
    - Stylinexpat wrote:
      - andrewg wrote:
        yeah. I don't know where they get these prices.
        They don't have a competitor that's why.
        People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in...
      What's funny is how Etisalat bids for foreign telecom projects overseas and yet won't allow allow any telecome companies into their own country to compete with them. If I were other countries I would never allow a telecom provider to operate in my country when they themselves don't allow any others to operate in their country. One must be fair, you open your telecom services and we will open ours in return.. One must take and give these days.
      In my opinion the Emirates has years to go yet before they catch up to modern nations. The local stock market is another example which offers no futures,no put, no calls, no shorting etc.. Look at how many telecom providers there are in Thailand and how many there are in the UAE.
    don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..
    it is not about allowing or not, but its about the best quality! I believe Etislate is doing v.well in this field and one of the best tele companies that provide whats new in telecommunication if you rank them world wide and that�s why other countries seek their services . .
    it is idiotaic to use the word monopoly since there is another company that operate the same business ,or do I have to define what monopoly is ?.
    what is important to me is that Etislate contribute to the country big social funds like shak zaid housing project and the marriage funds..
    I don't think there are many companies that compete with Etislate and if there will be , they wont contribute as much as Etislate..
    Sorry but your judgment is v.poor to the subject sir.
  i disagree with u ..
  i have a Q for u ..are u happy with etisalat service..im not happy ..the highest internet speed we get from itisalat is 8mb correct me if im wrong..however in other countrys it exceed 30mb.. so how come etisalat provide the best Quality or service..etisalat provided the 3G service in 2006 where vodafon had it since 2003..we are late in every thing ..plus its funny how they charge us ..why etisalat charge me 450 for 4mb ..its way expensive..my internet got Disconnected one day and i called them to see what is the problem, it took them 1 month just to repair it ..and if u want a refund for the month u had without internet u will go through hell..also the new wireless internet USB, do u know how much it cost..they will tell u that u have to pay only 500 dh per month but they dont tell u how much it cost per MB or each downloaded content..some ppl bills reached thousands..this is cheating ..for me as cosumer i do care about the service and it cost ..if im not happy with etisalat and want to change my internet provider do i have any options..no ..Du operate under etisalat supervision ..so yes etisalat play the monopoly ..there are no competitors and etisalat can do whatever they want ..if u are not happy with my service ..u will live without internet or communicatins.
I didn't say the best , I said one of the best. and again if you will bring another foreigner company, will they agree to the GOV terms of contributing to social funds ? I doubt it. Will they be hiring locals as much as Etisalate ? doubt it again. it is not all about the speed connection my friend , you have to look at it from diff angels too. Beside it is a local company and should be supported by the GOV LIKE EVERY COUNTRY DOESS TO ITS LOCAL COMPANIES !. uaekid
- Stylinexpat wrote:
  - uaekid wrote:
    you seem to be v. interested in UAE business for a guy who lives in Taiwan !! why ? do you won a tele company? do you wana get etisalate account? ae they sending you any bills to pay?
  What do you think of the new Iphone prices from Etisalat?
answer my Qs 1st man, let me know why are you are this much interested so I can discuss it with you from your point of view, it will be easier. Stylinexpat [quote="RobbyG"]
- Prices for Internet service are comparably higher than that of the United States. It is approximately $23.00 per month for 10 hours of service and an additional $1.77 for every hour after that.
  [end quote]
  This quote comes from the website given above.
  I wonder if these numbers are still correct? Can anyone tell me whether it has improved by now?
  Thnx
This link provides the rates from verizon in the US for the basic ADSL plans and rates. Verizon is one of the more expensive providers in the US and they also have faster services available. The link provided is for their slower services :wink:
Stylinexpat
- uaekid wrote:
  - Stylinexpat wrote:
    - uaekid wrote:
      you seem to be v. interested in UAE business for a guy who lives in Taiwan !! why ? do you won a tele company? do you wana get etisalate account? ae they sending you any bills to pay?
    What do you think of the new Iphone prices from Etisalat?
  answer my Qs 1st man, let me know why are you are this much interested so I can discuss it with you from your point of view, it will be easier.
I don't own a telecom company. I travel often and am expressing my views from my travel experiences. Yes, the UAE provides great internet experience if you are comparing the internet services to Syria or some other third world country in the region like Iran.
Now you can answer mine :wink: Don't forget that the Iphone 3G has been out for over a year now and the regular Iphone for over 2 years :wink: Stylinexpat
- uaekid wrote:
  - naruto wrote:
    - uaekid wrote:
      - Stylinexpat wrote:
        andrewg wrote:
        yeah. I don't know where they get these prices.
        They don't have a competitor that's why.
        People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in...
        
        What's funny is how Etisalat bids for foreign telecom projects overseas and yet won't allow allow any telecome companies into their own country to compete with them. If I were other countries I would never allow a telecom provider to operate in my country when they themselves don't allow any others to operate in their country. One must be fair, you open your telecom services and we will open ours in return.. One must take and give these days.
        In my opinion the Emirates has years to go yet before they catch up to modern nations. The local stock market is another example which offers no futures,no put, no calls, no shorting etc.. Look at how many telecom providers there are in Thailand and how many there are in the UAE.
      don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..
      it is not about allowing or not, but its about the best quality! I believe Etislate is doing v.well in this field and one of the best tele companies that provide whats new in telecommunication if you rank them world wide and that�s why other countries seek their services . .
      it is idiotaic to use the word monopoly since there is another company that operate the same business ,or do I have to define what monopoly is ?.
      what is important to me is that Etislate contribute to the country big social funds like shak zaid housing project and the marriage funds..
      I don't think there are many companies that compete with Etislate and if there will be , they wont contribute as much as Etislate..
      Sorry but your judgment is v.poor to the subject sir.
    i disagree with u ..
    i have a Q for u ..are u happy with etisalat service..im not happy ..the highest internet speed we get from itisalat is 8mb correct me if im wrong..however in other countrys it exceed 30mb.. so how come etisalat provide the best Quality or service..etisalat provided the 3G service in 2006 where vodafon had it since 2003..we are late in every thing ..plus its funny how they charge us ..why etisalat charge me 450 for 4mb ..its way expensive..my internet got Disconnected one day and i called them to see what is the problem, it took them 1 month just to repair it ..and if u want a refund for the month u had without internet u will go through hell..also the new wireless internet USB, do u know how much it cost..they will tell u that u have to pay only 500 dh per month but they dont tell u how much it cost per MB or each downloaded content..some ppl bills reached thousands..this is cheating ..for me as cosumer i do care about the service and it cost ..if im not happy with etisalat and want to change my internet provider do i have any options..no ..Du operate under etisalat supervision ..so yes etisalat play the monopoly ..there are no competitors and etisalat can do whatever they want ..if u are not happy with my service ..u will live without internet or communicatins.
  I didn't say the best , I said one of the best. and again if you will bring another foreigner company, will they agree to the GOV terms of contributing to social funds ? I doubt it. Will they be hiring locals as much as Etisalate ? doubt it again. it is not all about the speed connection my friend , you have to look at it from diff angels too. Beside it is a local company and should be supported by the GOV LIKE EVERY COUNTRY DOESS TO ITS LOCAL COMPANIES !.
If you have a monopoly on the market then you can gouge your customers, hire foreign workers (Under paid of course :wink: ) , Hire locals for the basic work and over pay them, Assign social funds for the locals and not allow foreign competition to enter.
Like I said before, locals are treated well by Etisalat but that is at the expense of foreign expats in the UAE. When I travel to Syria I get very frustrated with their internet services but when I arrive in Dubai I feel like their services are heaven when compared to Syria but coming from Asia I feel like the services in Dubai are like comparing the services in Dubai to those in Syria or Iran. naruto
- uaekid wrote:
  - naruto wrote:
    - uaekid wrote:
      - Stylinexpat wrote:
        andrewg wrote:
        yeah. I don't know where they get these prices.
        They don't have a competitor that's why.
        People can not do anything at all that's why they can just play the magic game of monopoly... if everything get competitive, a lot of business will be swarming in...
        
        What's funny is how Etisalat bids for foreign telecom projects overseas and yet won't allow allow any telecome companies into their own country to compete with them. If I were other countries I would never allow a telecom provider to operate in my country when they themselves don't allow any others to operate in their country. One must be fair, you open your telecom services and we will open ours in return.. One must take and give these days.
        In my opinion the Emirates has years to go yet before they catch up to modern nations. The local stock market is another example which offers no futures,no put, no calls, no shorting etc.. Look at how many telecom providers there are in Thailand and how many there are in the UAE.
      don't be this much narrow minded !! First of all it is not up to Etisalate it self to allow other companies to operate here or not..
      it is not about allowing or not, but its about the best quality! I believe Etislate is doing v.well in this field and one of the best tele companies that provide whats new in telecommunication if you rank them world wide and that�s why other countries seek their services . .
      it is idiotaic to use the word monopoly since there is another company that operate the same business ,or do I have to define what monopoly is ?.
      what is important to me is that Etislate contribute to the country big social funds like shak zaid housing project and the marriage funds..
      I don't think there are many companies that compete with Etislate and if there will be , they wont contribute as much as Etislate..
      Sorry but your judgment is v.poor to the subject sir.
    i disagree with u ..
    i have a Q for u ..are u happy with etisalat service..im not happy ..the highest internet speed we get from itisalat is 8mb correct me if im wrong..however in other countrys it exceed 30mb.. so how come etisalat provide the best Quality or service..etisalat provided the 3G service in 2006 where vodafon had it since 2003..we are late in every thing ..plus its funny how they charge us ..why etisalat charge me 450 for 4mb ..its way expensive..my internet got Disconnected one day and i called them to see what is the problem, it took them 1 month just to repair it ..and if u want a refund for the month u had without internet u will go through hell..also the new wireless internet USB, do u know how much it cost..they will tell u that u have to pay only 500 dh per month but they dont tell u how much it cost per MB or each downloaded content..some ppl bills reached thousands..this is cheating ..for me as cosumer i do care about the service and it cost ..if im not happy with etisalat and want to change my internet provider do i have any options..no ..Du operate under etisalat supervision ..so yes etisalat play the monopoly ..there are no competitors and etisalat can do whatever they want ..if u are not happy with my service ..u will live without internet or communicatins.
  I didn't say the best , I said one of the best. and again if you will bring another foreigner company, will they agree to the GOV terms of contributing to social funds ? I doubt it. Will they be hiring locals as much as Etisalate ? doubt it again. it is not all about the speed connection my friend , you have to look at it from diff angels too. Beside it is a local company and should be supported by the GOV LIKE EVERY COUNTRY DOESS TO ITS LOCAL COMPANIES !.
ok lets see it from that aspect..have a look at DFM companies.. u will not see any single local work at these companies ..so, do these foreigner company contribute to the social funds or community..do microsoft contribute to social funds ..do they hire locals ..
remember that we have a free market so contributing to the community will be considered as paying taxes..if they will increase their prices just to help the community, it will be from our pocket uaekid and helping your self, and your fellow citizens of the country when you pay your bills. I think they are the only ones who pays back millions to the country, we should give them some credit for that and also for their acadimic college and other things toward us. but international companies wont give you or the country any of that. naruto
- uaekid wrote:
  and helping your self, and your fellow citizens of the country when you pay your bills. I think they are the only ones who pays back millions to the country, we should give them some credit for that and also for their acadimic college and other things toward us.
  but international companies wont give you or the country any of that.
i agree.. but let me tell u something i studied at etisalat college of engineering..and they chrarged me for every year..when i graduated i was promise a job and guess what after 5 years of study and going through hell i get a job but the salary was 9000 dh, i wasted my time my money just for 9000DH i said its okay ..i was promised a loan up to 500k to build a hous, didnt happend ..my salary wasnt enough to get loan ..lol..laugh with etisalat..i said ok.. discoverd later that the student who studied at higher college of tech. recived a salary equal to mine ..i resigned ... so ,tell me what did etisalat do for me ..absulotly nothing special ..i could've studied at HCT for free and then worked at etisalat..
im not comparing between international companies and etisalat ..all i want is a good service .. if u are going to charge me that much ..plz make it worth every dime we pay for u ..dont rop me and hide behind your work of charity ..that does not give you an excuse to control the market..and by the way they closed the college .. uaekid I agree naruto if it's regarding the service. when I was in the states , they use to compete with each other to an extent that they sent me a cheque for $100 and another $100 as a gift to be used for paying my phone bill. ( lost the cash in gambling ) naruto
- uaekid wrote:
  I agree naruto if it's regarding the service.
  when I was in the states , they use to compete with each other to an extent that they sent me a cheque for $100 and another $100 as a gift to be used for paying my phone bill. ( lost the cash in gambling )
thats was my point UAEKid..what game did u played ..i play" black jack" uaekid you name it, all the others but mostly poker hold'em 9 players aaahhh I missed it even though I lose all the time but got addicted to it RobbyG
- uaekid wrote:
  I didn't say the best , I said one of the best. and again.... !.
You say alot of things, but I hear a lot of rubbish.
For instance, my country having satellite internet connections for the cheap...which is untrue. You pay 80 euro's a month for that (~450 and up) minimum.
Discussing ok, but mind the facts and suggestions will you. Stylinexpat Well at least this time it wasn't me mentioning this..
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the censoring dreadful cellphone provider in the United Arab Emirates Stylinexpat What would be nice is if they placed installed Wifi throughout Dubai.