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I have used the 2008 CRV and now drive the Hyundai Santa Fe. The CRV is a super vehicle if you are sure you will not be going off road.

One of the best vehicles I have driven

uaekid wrote:

BlackburnRovers wrote:I was thinking of the Xterra as well, as its quite fast and really good offroad. However its cons are:

1) Very basic cabin, when compared to CRV or even Fortuner

2) On road ride quality isnt that good.

If you think you wont be going proper offroading more than once a year, than it may be better to get a softroader and have better ride/driving quality

you can't hace it all my friend ... but if you are in hard core off road driving then don't go for the computerized ones. they'll break in the long run.

I remembered my 2006 Bmw 745 I heard a sound when shifting gears so I took it to the dealer and told me it's your clutch that needs a replacement so I said yaa go a head and do that ( thinking it wont coast me more than 3000) so the estimation was 40,000 ... (fuc* me ) I sold it the same week LOL

Huh that's funny because BMW doesn't offer a manual transmission in that model 7-series...so whoever told you the clutch was bad was OBVIOUSLY a trained BMW technician

40K is about right for a new automatic transmission, and if you were doing neutral-drive drops to "launch" the car then you deserved that final price

Auto boxes also have "clutch packs"

Yep but in order to diagnose a bad clutch packing assembly in the primary and secondary planetaries, the transmission has to be disassembled anyways. Any smart dealership will just replace the transmission before attempting a rebuild, especially if it's under warranty.

Depends on how the car was driven, what the damage could be...
Neutral-drop launches will put the hardest strain on the pump and valve body assemblies, clutch packs usually only get burnt out from overheating or the torque converter not locking up when in overdrive.

Oh well, not like Uaekid really cares what happened to that car ;D

And just yesterday somebody was bragging how tough ZF trannys are and meant to be non servicable item and good for the life of the vehicle if not more. And ZF transmissions do have impecable history used in every thing from Range Rovers, BMW's, Jaguars and a few luxury american limosines.

My 11 year landy also has a ZF with around 200k on it and still is silky smooth. But ofcourse they were not meant to handle the abuse of the likes of UAEKkid

You really have to go for it to bum one of thoses trannies outs.

Oh i'm sure he's "bummed" a few "trannies" with his "acceleration" techniques

Gimme a Ford C4 automatic any day, bolt in a nice manual valve body with trans-brake and upgraded 2nd and 3rd gear bands and throw any 1000+ hp engine you want in there

Dear all members!
I want to buy Mitsubishi pajero io, cupe(3 door), 1999-2000 years for cheap price about 4000 $.
If u have any information about where i can buy, please tell me.
Very thx for your attention.

GMC Siera pick up,big wheels and a supercharged engine,on road,off road you name it and as cheap as chips.


















Oh i did i mention that i am selling mine

i have had my patrol for the last 6 to 7 years it is 2003 model. Honestly speaking it is the best 4 wheeler I have driven. I have driven a pajero, a prado and a cruiser and they are not in the SAME league as the Nissan patrol for various reasons. As long as you service it and regularly maintane it, it will never give you a problem. However got to warn you that Nissans do have a problem with wobbling stearing wheels. But thats only because if you have drivers like me going over footpaths to take short cuts . Oh yeh whichever 4 wheel you go for dont go for a BLACK one.

I always heard a saab holds their value pretty well.




Some guy thrashing his old saab. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du6aFl-n_is

surprised there are no votes for the good old Wrangler. Rugged and good VFM

smoggie wrote:surprised there are no votes for the good old Wrangler. Rugged and good VFM

The Sheep is unrealiable, uncomfortable and with the range of a granny with a walker before it runs out of gas. Not to mention the lastest generation being ugly as Fark. And they have even more reliablity issues than the older ones.

canuckbid wrote:I always heard a saab holds their value pretty well.

Aren't they talking 4x4s?

First of all a Saab DOESNT holds its value well here. Infact anything other than the usual Japanese crap doesn't over here. And YES we are talking 4X4's not soccer mom AWD station wagons !

But I do this guy to does take is forrester/outlander ? out into the dunes !

Oh and BTW cannuck this is the way we like to drive in the desert so have an idea that we need a proper 4x4



Infact I'll post it as a new thread

desertdudeshj wrote: And YES we are talking 4X4's not soccer mom AWD station wagons !

Dude, don't be so tough. I see that some people seriously discuss CRV in this topic as well.

To be frank visually and in terms of spec. and price I like Ford Edge. It's very comparable with CRV in price but IMHO is much better SUV.

Of cause I am not going to dune bash but SUV at price of sedan is rather good option in the UAE. At least people will "respect" you on the speed lane.

The only thing that stop me from purchasing is an opinion of my American friends that the only GM can compare (rather distantly) with Japs in quality. The rest Americans are utter junks.

Well as of recent the Jap quality is also nothing to write about either.

Get the new GMC Acadia. If you prefer a GM. But its strictly a mall crawler and should not see any off road action at all.

Ford Edge is quite stupid with the fact it does not even have a hook or even a screwable eyelet to pull the car. Saw one stuck in Dragon mart sand paking could not pull it out because no where to tow it out from !

desertdudeshj wrote:Ford Edge is quite stupid with the fact it does not even have a hook or even a screwable eyelet to pull the car. Saw one stuck in Dragon mart sand paking could not pull it out because no where to tow it out from !

It's a big disadvantage of cause. Living all my life in severe weather conditions (believe me snow, ice or mud are as good friends of any driver as sand) I understood a wisdom that better 4 wheeler you have means much longer walking distance for a caterpillar.
So I'm not a fisherman.

Hmm well the OP never stated what they were going to use if for. I posted a commuter that is a 4x4. Since you never get ice there I can see no need for it on a public highway. I don't care what you buy, as long as you can get parts for them. They all break down. If you are going to play in the desert seriously, then get something made for it. Like a real dune buggy. Not that other cr*p. Those guys are driving like a bunch of girls in that video. Are the foreigners going to have to show you how to do that also? Just like getting that oil out of the ground. All foreign technology. What do they actually build in Dubai besides hotels? (that's all imported technology also)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge_XMEJplvo

Hate to say it canucky, but your starting to sound like a troll. Bad day at work maybe ?

I showed a 4x4 for the OP. You came back with your smart*ss remarks. I gave a little taste of it back. Not fun is it?

HuH ? I thought I was being very accomadating, Saab does not hold its value well ( maybe it does in canada )and many don't even know it exsits over here. And the Video was FYI so you get an idea of what kind offroading is I was talking.

Not the generally boring muddy gatch tracks of N.America or if you go extreme up there. Even more boring Mudding and rock crawling.

Although we do have our mud pits and mountain ranges not many care for it. Anyone who's done all three types will tell you which is the most exhilirating and a bigger adrealin rush. Snow n Ice is the only thing we don't have here but I know people who now live in Alaska and Canada still say nothing beats the sand

Anyways no worries

Peace out and chillbro.

I think you need this experience, Dude, when you cannot start any of your jeeps due to raging blizzard and don't have any single man 500 km. around.
Then you will understand that diesel isn't the best fuel in the world.

P.S. I don't mean in below statement that snow and ice is worse than sand - real "fisherman" can easy find an adventure on own arse anywhere in the world.

RC, where the hell did diesel come into the discussion ?

Diesel is a total no-no in any form of off-roading.

1. Small SUV
2. Real off roader
3. with low range gearing and differential lock.

There is only one vehicle for which all the above can be true and that is Zusuki Grand Vitara.

Believe me, I have seen a grand vitara (slightly modified) doing wonders in the desert which perhaps a Patrol or Land cruiser can not think of because of their weight.(This is only my observation. I am not an off road expert as many of you)

arniegang wrote:Diesel is a total no-no in any form of off-roading.

Rather unusual point of view I must say. Many jeepers chose diesel for its high torque at low engine speed and a half of fuel consumption against petrol engine.

Double post.

gcarlin37 wrote:1. Small SUV
2. Real off roader
3. with low range gearing and differential lock.

There is only one vehicle for which all the above can be true and that is Zusuki Grand Vitara.

Believe me, I have seen a grand vitara (slightly modified) doing wonders in the desert which perhaps a Patrol or Land cruiser can not think of because of their weight.(This is only my observation. I am not an off road expert as many of you)

I have to agree with this. It the most compact proper 4x4 available only to be beated by the Suzuki Samurai now Jimny in compactness.

Red Chief wrote:

arniegang wrote:Diesel is a total no-no in any form of off-roading.

Rather unusual point of view I must say. Many jeepers chose diesel for its high torque at low engine speed and a half of fuel consumption against petrol engine.

Well in this country and desert driving diesel is really not the optimal choice of fuel and you need speed and quick accelration to cover the dunes. Although in capable hands a diesel would not fair bad at all.

Still old 60's and new diesel bedfords, nissan diesel and tatra trucks scour the deserts of the empty quarter

I've been dying to try out the New V8 turbo diesel Land Cruiser with 1000nm of torque ! Unfortunately the retards at Al Futtaim don't bring it in and is also not availiable in Oman n Buraimi