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The truly sadthing about this story, is that she was going to a party organised by friends, some mates allowing that to happen.

Chocoholic wrote:The truly sadthing about this story, is that she was going to a party organised by friends, some mates allowing that to happen.

"Date" rape is as common as "regular" rape...

In this story the point is not about the "party" or even the rape, Its about the brutality and barbarity of these attackers, and how they dare to do this in a place so near to the villa! they didnt even bother to take her somewhere else!

And as Chocs said, they have no fear that the girl actually knows them!!

Red Chief wrote:

Chocoholic wrote:Naive of me? I know this stuff goes on, but sadly it's report very infrequently. I have quite a few friends who've been offered huge sums of cash to 'perform' at private parties, luckily they all have the brains to tell the guys where to go.

I know a woman who made a report and regrets about that now. An expat woman, who represents herself against three kind Moslems in a court...

Thank God, there had been no violance due to police intervention just in time.

Why the regret?

Ambassador wrote:

Red Chief wrote:

Chocoholic wrote:Naive of me? I know this stuff goes on, but sadly it's report very infrequently. I have quite a few friends who've been offered huge sums of cash to 'perform' at private parties, luckily they all have the brains to tell the guys where to go.

I know a woman who made a report and regrets about that now. An expat woman, who represents herself against three kind Moslems in a court...

Thank God, there had been no violance due to police intervention just in time.

Why the regret?

I suspect because they like to turn the tables here. Even if a woman reports such incidents, 9 times out of 10 she also gets convicted of unlawful s.e.x.

Chocoholic wrote:I suspect because they like to turn the tables here. Even if a woman reports such incidents, 9 times out of 10 she also gets convicted of unlawful s.e.x.

Thanks. That is what I said in my first post on this thread. I was interested in the specific instance of regret as per the previous poster.

Chocoholic wrote:I suspect because they like to turn the tables here. Even if a woman reports such incidents, 9 times out of 10 she also gets convicted of unlawful s.e.x.

What a fantasy! There was no intercourse at all. A few summer months without passport is a good punishment.

Ambassador wrote:

Chocoholic wrote:I suspect because they like to turn the tables here. Even if a woman reports such incidents, 9 times out of 10 she also gets convicted of unlawful s.e.x.

Thanks. That is what I said in my first post on this thread. I was interested in the specific instance of regret as per the previous poster.

I'd be interested to, for reference purposes.

yeah the fantasy will go like this, she was pleasing herself with the gun to turn on those innocent men and get then to the unlawful s.ex! of course the men was wise enough, so she couldnt get it!!!!

melika969 wrote:yeah the fantasy will go like this, she was pleasing herself with the gun to turn on those innocent men and get then to the unlawful s.ex! of course the men was wise enough, so she couldnt get it!!!!

Sadly Melika, I don't think that'll be far from the truth.

"Noor is representing herself as she cannot afford legal fees, but hopes someone will take her case on a ‘no win, no fee’ basis" eerrr somethings wrong here. She cannt afford legal fees but she is of Emarati and Pakistani background and she is a Brit lol if you ask me she is a funny cocktail more like it

lol nah seriously I am assuming her mother or pops is emarati or vice versa. Anyways why arent her parents helping her out with the legal fees? Hmmmm

rudeboy wrote:"Noor is representing herself as she cannot afford legal fees, but hopes someone will take her case on a ‘no win, no fee’ basis" eerrr somethings wrong here. She cannt afford legal fees but she is of Emarati and Pakistani background and she is a Brit lol if you ask me she is a funny cocktail more like it

lol nah seriously I am assuming her mother or pops is emarati or vice versa. Anyways why arent her parents helping her out with the legal fees? Hmmmm

I think that what you have stated may be the reason why mroe women don't report this kind of thing/attack/rape unwanted Zx, etc. (your insinuation that "she must have been up to no good, etc" is telling).

melika969 wrote:

uaekid wrote:It happens all the time not only now choc. That’s what you get when you go to those “private parties” uncontrolled drinking and lack of security.

It happens all times?!!!!! Seriously there is no LAW out there? So in how many u have taken part kid?

I mean, this country supposed to be run under Islamic laws, I m not an Islam defender ( I think it's pretty obvious by now ) but there is no rule in Islam which says if u go to a party u are asking for being raped by a gun!!

So seriously what rules this people and this country????
(This is for u Berrin, unnecessary restrictions turn human beings to animals!)

well its not an emarati or an aslamic thing. its justa young private parties like we know it. men with cash and prostitutes , her complain is a dime a dozen. a prostitute who is taking advantage of an alcoholic and probably on drug rich local, a chance to blackmail them which they deserve .

regarding me well yes I do go to such "private parties" and pay "models" oh sorry I mean an expensive prostitute to shack it , whats new here ? isn't just like a night club. dance drink and find a one night stand ? well we take the short cut.

at the end you are responsible for your actions, no one forced her to such parties that we all know its reputation here or in any of those young men parties in this world that mostly end up some girl is getting raped , we all now what goes on their, so I don't think any religious or law will save you from your stupidity ,right ?

but the girl is hot so I'll have to side with her

its like telling the government and the religion ( hey I'll do stupid harmful thing and you should save me) get real, well yaa.

rudeboy wrote:"Noor is representing herself as she cannot afford legal fees, but hopes someone will take her case on a ‘no win, no fee’ basis" eerrr somethings wrong here. She cannt afford legal fees but she is of Emarati and Pakistani background and she is a Brit lol if you ask me she is a funny cocktail more like it

lol nah seriously I am assuming her mother or pops is emarati or vice versa. Anyways why arent her parents helping her out with the legal fees? Hmmmm

Because A you wrongly assume that all locals are loaded. And B it might be a shame thing, those two nationalities frown on such things and so are probably distancing themselves incase of a negative outcome.

see she is a model as its reported. Dont models like earn really well? Ok maybe she aint the Naomi campbell and probably aint the model who do that funny walk in front of bunch of people and try not to fall over but a model earns OK amount. right? so am sure she must have some amount in her bank account which can be used to help her, unless she spent it all in one shopping fest in dubai mall!!

I am not saying she wasnt up to any good because she is a model and models enjoy themselves party etc but why arent her parents helping her out thats all!

Who knows, that's not for us to judge.

Don't you think it's a bit wrong that the woman is named, and even a photo published online of her, while the alleged attacker is not even named?

As for the private parties issue - It's fine to have a private party with prostitutes who are being paid to be there, and do whatever people want. They know what they are getting into, and they are getting paid. That's their "business" and everyone knows the score.

But i think even the hardiest of prostitutes may just draw the line at the insertion of an electricity-emitting foot long black thing - in any orifice.......

BlueOrb wrote:Don't you think it's a bit wrong that the woman is named, and even a photo published online of her, while the alleged attacker is not even named?

As for the private parties issue - It's fine to have a private party with prostitutes who are being paid to be there, and do whatever people want. They know what they are getting into, and they are getting paid. That's their "business" and everyone knows the score.

But i think even the hardiest of prostitutes may just draw the line at the insertion of an electricity-emitting foot long black thing - in any orifice.......

Yes you're right. Not sure how journalistic licence works here, but certainly in other countries you're not allowed to name anyone involved in a case unless people have been formally charged.

U make me sick Kid ,seriously! u are too much to stand! btw in ur religion accusing somebody of sth false is a big sin! so how do u know she is a prostitute?

-- Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:25 pm --

Chocoholic wrote:Who knows, that's not for us to judge.

exactly! rudeboy we cant judge why she doesnt have money.

melika969 wrote:U make me sick Kid ,seriously! u are too much to stand! btw in ur religion accusing somebody of sth false is a big sin! so how do u know she is a prostitute?

-- Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:25 pm --

Chocoholic wrote:Who knows, that's not for us to judge.

exactly! rudeboy we cant judge why she doesnt have money.

Agree, with you on that one. Kids post was well below the mark. Even if that is the case the treatment of another person in such a way is not acceptable in any circumstances.

As someone said on another forum 'In a society that supposedly prides itself on honour, its people show a distinct lack of it'.

7 Days has no problem publishing names and, if available, photos of people being accused of a crime. But to get that honor you have to be an expat. I've seen Gulf News do it as well. From what I gather in the posts, she has a British passport, so I gather they think exposure based on her being an expat is fair game.

Question is: did she give an interview?

Bora Bora wrote:Question is: did she give an interview?

I would guess as a model she would have jumped at the opportunity and insisted on the photo, call me a cynic!

Gulf News tend to identify accused people by initials only....but when you catch the same story in the western press, the accused normally get named in full.

I feel sorry for the woman - bad enough to go through something like that, but now everyone klniows her name and what she looks like. In other countries, she would have had a bit more protection for her identity, and the accused would have been named.

BlueOrb wrote:Gulf News tend to identify accused people by initials only....but when you catch the same story in the western press, the accused normally get named in full.

I feel sorry for the woman - bad enough to go through something like that, but now everyone klniows her name and what she looks like. In other countries, she would have had a bit more protection for her identity, and the accused would have been named.

Well no, it would be initials and the story would be littered with 'allegedly', in the UK cannot name a defendant until they are formally charged.

Dillon wrote:

Bora Bora wrote:Question is: did she give an interview?

I would guess as a model she would have jumped at the opportunity and insisted on the photo, call me a cynic!

Self-promotion?? Could this be her 15 minutes of fame??

i am not judging anyone :S I am just saying parents should be helping her unless her parents dont want anything to do with her!!! Not even that, where are her friends who invited her to this party? Why arent they financially helping her with her case? Wait they dont have the money yet they have the money to rent a villa and order the booze :S lol I think this Model is probably a loner or some1 who thinks everyone is her friend when they AINT!!!

and orb is right they blooody even posted pic of her?? Lol its like shes marketting herself for the next launch or something!!!

Chocoholic wrote:

rudeboy wrote:"Noor is representing herself as she cannot afford legal fees, but hopes someone will take her case on a ‘no win, no fee’ basis" eerrr somethings wrong here. She cannt afford legal fees but she is of Emarati and Pakistani background and she is a Brit lol if you ask me she is a funny cocktail more like it

lol nah seriously I am assuming her mother or pops is emarati or vice versa. Anyways why arent her parents helping her out with the legal fees? Hmmmm

Because A you wrongly assume that all locals are loaded. And B it might be a shame thing, those two nationalities frown on such things and so are probably distancing themselves incase of a negative outcome.

if you are a socialite you are well off then the poor buggers on the streets begging. Now are you telling me that a model is not a socialite? Like I said maybe she aint the naomi campbell and am sure she probably is the one who appears in magazines etc etc but still she gets paid and is well off.

Those two nationalities frown from what such things? That their daughter is a model or that their daugther attends parties??

uaekid wrote:well its not an emarati or an aslamic thing. its justa young private parties like we know it. men with cash and prostitutes , her complain is a dime a dozen. a prostitute who is taking advantage of an alcoholic and probably on drug rich local, a chance to blackmail them which they deserve .

regarding me well yes I do go to such "private parties" and pay "models" oh sorry I mean an expensive prostitute to shack it , whats new here ? isn't just like a night club. dance drink and find a one night stand ? well we take the short cut.

at the end you are responsible for your actions, no one forced her to such parties that we all know its reputation here or in any of those young men parties in this world that mostly end up some girl is getting raped , we all now what goes on their, so I don't think any religious or law will save you from your stupidity ,right ?

but the girl is hot so I'll have to side with her

its like telling the government and the religion ( hey I'll do stupid harmful thing and you should save me) get real, well yaa.

It looks like the kid participated in that party - so many details he knows. Kid, what was your job there?

Red Chief wrote:

uaekid wrote:well its not an emarati or an aslamic thing. its justa young private parties like we know it. men with cash and prostitutes , her complain is a dime a dozen. a prostitute who is taking advantage of an alcoholic and probably on drug rich local, a chance to blackmail them which they deserve .

regarding me well yes I do go to such "private parties" and pay "models" oh sorry I mean an expensive prostitute to shack it , whats new here ? isn't just like a night club. dance drink and find a one night stand ? well we take the short cut.

at the end you are responsible for your actions, no one forced her to such parties that we all know its reputation here or in any of those young men parties in this world that mostly end up some girl is getting raped , we all now what goes on their, so I don't think any religious or law will save you from your stupidity ,right ?

but the girl is hot so I'll have to side with her

its like telling the government and the religion ( hey I'll do stupid harmful thing and you should save me) get real, well yaa.

It looks like the kid participated in that party - so many details he knows. Kid, what was your job there?

Doorman, drinks server, coat hanger upper, general skivvy or whipping boy!

Chocoholic wrote:
Well no, it would be initials and the story would be littered with 'allegedly', in the UK cannot name a defendant until they are formally charged.

Agreed. But if a man is to appear in court in relation to this later in the month, then surely he has already been charged? Or does it work differently over here?

BlueOrb wrote:

Chocoholic wrote:
Well no, it would be initials and the story would be littered with 'allegedly', in the UK cannot name a defendant until they are formally charged.

Agreed. But if a man is to appear in court in relation to this later in the month, then surely he has already been charged? Or does it work differently over here?

Depends which paper will report it. You tend to find 7 Days are ahead of the game with this sort of thing, where as the 'governmentally' owned rags like GN, Emirates 24 etc will hang back and only give initials. They don't like to name and shame locals.