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Kanelli

Do you support Israel

Do you support the Palestinian resistance

Do you support the Iraqi resistance

Do you support Hizb'allah

valkyrie wrote:Kanelli

Do you support Israel

Do you support the Palestinian resistance

Do you support the Iraqi resistance

Do you support Hizb'allah

I support humanity.........rest comes later

Valkyrie, it is smart for you to ask me what I support instead of assuming. I support Israel's right to exist. Why? Because IT DOES exist and I don't want to see Israelis/Jews slaughtered. Having said this, I also support the Arabs/Muslims in the neighbouring countries who deserve a fair deal. Currently Palestinians are being treated atrociously by the Israelis and I do not support that at all. Do you have a problem with my opinion on this?

I do not support the Iraqi resistance - they should be focusing on forming police and military and a government so that the coalition can leave. They are currently trying to fight he coalition so that the sectarian violence can break out and each sect of Islam can fight it out for dominance in the new government. Religion is put above what is best for the people and country. I don't approve of that.

No, I do not support Hizbollah as an organisation. I will only support an official army associated with the Lebanese government which was elected by the majority of the Lebanese people.

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:Valkyrie, are you a member of Al Qaeda? If not, it doesn't really matter to me what you think valid targets are since we are talking about Al Qaeda here.

As I pointed out before, Al Qaeda seems to attack only government officials and civilians. They don't tackle military targets in the Middle East.

And yet you support Israel...

what?

If you are the terrorist will you bomb your brother`s home ?

- Quoted from a very good friend who had her bday last week

kanelli wrote:Valkyrie, it is smart for you to ask me what I support instead of assuming. I support Israel's right to exist. Why? Because IT DOES exist and I don't want to see Israelis/Jews slaughtered. Having said this, I also support the Arabs/Muslims in the neighbouring countries who deserve a fair deal. Currently Palestinians are being treated atrociously by the Israelis and I do not support that at all. Do you have a problem with my opinion on this?
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well did u know 75% of isrealis have passports of other nationality? Well they are culturally european .....y dont u leave the country ..slaughteringis not the answer........when russian jews left russia.....population there has decreased rapidly.......they need ppl there.

leave like french immigrants left algeria

kanelli wrote:Valkyrie, it is smart for you to ask me what I support instead of assuming. I support Israel's right to exist. Why? Because IT DOES exist and I don't want to see Israelis/Jews slaughtered. Having said this, I also support the Arabs/Muslims in the neighbouring countries who deserve a fair deal. Currently Palestinians are being treated atrociously by the Israelis and I do not support that at all. Do you have a problem with my opinion on this?

I do not support the Iraqi resistance - they should be focusing on forming police and military and a government so that the coalition can leave. They are currently trying to fight he coalition so that the sectarian violence can break out and each sect of Islam can fight it out for dominance in the new government. Religion is put above what is best for the people and country. I don't approve of that.

No, I do not support Hizbollah as an organisation. I will only support an official army associated with the Lebanese government which was elected by the majority of the Lebanese people.

You can't be against the occupation of Iraq without supporting the resistance. You also completely steamrolled over my question about supporting the Palestinian resistance. Do you support the armed struggle against the zionist occupation of Palestine?

Yes I can be against the resistance movement and still support the coalition leaving Iraq. I don't think the coalition should leave until there is some stability though. You didn't ask me about that - made more assumptions, as usual.

I also didn't steamroll over the Palestinian resistance question, I just didn't see it there amongst the others. To answer your question, I think they do have a right to resist in order to fight for what the internationally community has proposed for borders for Israel and Palestine, and to fight any injustices committed by the Israelis, like stopping people from going to work and school etc. They do not have the right to fight to wipe Israelis off the planet completely. (And same goes for the Israelis with the Palestinians.)

So what are you beefs now Valkyrie?

Are we going to go back to the Al Qaeda topic now or what?

kanelli wrote:Yes I can be against the resistance movement and still support the coalition leaving Iraq. I don't think the coalition should leave until there is some stability though.

resistance movement only result of coalition attack as always has been the case with wars....however, i do agree with kanelli point that coalition should stay there till stability is regained in that region of world.

PhDFares wrote:

kanelli wrote:Yes I can be against the resistance movement and still support the coalition leaving Iraq. I don't think the coalition should leave until there is some stability though.

resistance movement only result of coalition attack as always has been the case with wars....however, i do agree with kanelli point that coalition should stay there till stability is regained in that region of world.

You have got to be kidding me!!!! Do you know what would happen if the coalition left Iraq now.....Utter and Total Civil War.....There was a article in the papers a few days back I forgot the name of the town in Iraq but because of the coalition people could again walk on the roads and they are shuddering to think what would happen when the coalition leaves!!!!

devilsdiciple wrote:

PhDFares wrote:

kanelli wrote:Yes I can be against the resistance movement and still support the coalition leaving Iraq. I don't think the coalition should leave until there is some stability though.

resistance movement only result of coalition attack as always has been the case with wars....however, i do agree with kanelli point that coalition should stay there till stability is regained in that region of world.

You have got to be kidding me!!!! Do you know what would happen if the coalition left Iraq now.....Utter and Total Civil War.....There was a article in the papers a few days back I forgot the name of the town in Iraq but because of the coalition people could again walk on the roads and they are shuddering to think what would happen when the coalition leaves!!!!

true

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide car bomber killed two U.S. soldiers and wounded 25 in Baghdad on Thursday, the U.S. command said. The attack brought to five the number of Americans who have died in Iraq since Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_ ... 0910164779

An attempt by four suicide bombers to attack two oil refineries in Yemen has been foiled

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ ... FEFDA8.htm

In the past Zawahiri videos antedated attacks, this appears to be no exception

zam wrote:If you are the terrorist will you bomb your brother`s home ?

- Quoted from a very good friend who had her bday last week

That doesn't even make sense. Are you talking about the marines and the idf?

valkyrie wrote:

zam wrote:If you are the terrorist will you bomb your brother`s home ?

- Quoted from a very good friend who had her bday last week

That doesn't even make sense. Are you talking about the marines and the idf?

lol

valkyrie wrote:BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide car bomber killed two U.S. soldiers and wounded 25 in Baghdad on Thursday, the U.S. command said. The attack brought to five the number of Americans who have died in Iraq since Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_ ... 0910164779

not funny at all........those troops are poor ppl cant afford to pay the expensive crap in US sothe rich congress morons send them to die...

sniper420 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide car bomber killed two U.S. soldiers and wounded 25 in Baghdad on Thursday, the U.S. command said. The attack brought to five the number of Americans who have died in Iraq since Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_ ... 0910164779

not funny at all........those troops are poor ppl cant afford to pay the expensive crap in US sothe rich congress morons send them to die...

You're right, I probably shouldn't celebrate the deaths of occupation soldiers. It is, however, understandable for people to rejoice their deaths.

Edit: The Iraqis and Afghans that the soldiers are occupying are even poorer than the American soldiers. They have alternatives than to join the military, they can also be conscientious objectors to the war.

Edit 2: Bringing the troops home in body bags will spark a catalyst for the anti war movement in the States. Just compare the opposition to the Iraq war to that of Afghanistan. If 5,000 more soldiers need to die in Iraq in order for the occupation to flee Iraq, then so be it.

valkyrie wrote:

sniper420 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide car bomber killed two U.S. soldiers and wounded 25 in Baghdad on Thursday, the U.S. command said. The attack brought to five the number of Americans who have died in Iraq since Wednesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060914/ap_ ... 0910164779

not funny at all........those troops are poor ppl cant afford to pay the expensive crap in US sothe rich congress morons send them to die...

You're right, I probably shouldn't celebrate the deaths of occupation soldiers. It is, however, understandable for people to rejoice their deaths.

Edit: The Iraqis and Afghans that the soldiers are occupying are even poorer than the American soldiers. They have alternatives than to join the military, they can also be conscientious objectors to the war.

Edit 2: Bringing the troops home in body bags will spark a catalyst for the anti war movement in the States. Just compare the opposition to the Iraq war to that of Afghanistan. If 5,000 more soldiers need to die in Iraq in order for the occupation to flee Iraq, then so be it.

so ur solution is if they get out of iraq ....iraq will be a heaven? well they opened the pandora's box and THEY have to put those devils back to where it belonged.

those morons shunned the sunni community and gave reponsibilities to shite thugs...f&&king bermer he dismalted iraqi army

American imperialists who travel thousands of miles to bomb, mutilate, kill and destroy poor Third World people and their dwellings are far from the innocent victims they are depicted by some here. They are barbaric war criminals, who are voluntarily fighting against their own interests, as well as ours, because the interests of working people everywhere are the same: control over the conditions of their work place and the full value of their labor. Nazi soldiers' excuses of only doing their duty were not accepted as valid after World War 2. Neither should American imperialists be excused from responsibility by statements of fighting for their country or any other meaningless cliche.


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not funny at all........those troops are poor ppl cant afford to pay the expensive crap in US sothe rich congress morons send them to die...[/quote]


Tough situation buddy, but they're on the wrong side, and deserve to die. That is not an excuse. At the end of the day they are still serving in an army of occupation and oppression. Rationalize, justify, or equivocate all you want - nothing will change this. So before you start indulging yourself in a spate of imperialism-apologist, reactionary bullshit, just remember the German soldiers in World War II stationed at the death camps were "products of the system" too.

Lets see 3,000 , 6,000 , 100,000 more!

valkyrie wrote:American imperialists who travel thousands of miles to bomb, mutilate, kill and destroy poor Third World people and their dwellings are far from the innocent victims they are depicted by some here. They are barbaric war criminals, who are voluntarily fighting against their own interests, as well as ours, because the interests of working people everywhere are the same: control over the conditions of their work place and the full value of their labor. Nazi soldiers' excuses of only doing their duty were not accepted as valid after World War 2. Neither should American imperialists be excused from responsibility by statements of fighting for their country or any other meaningless cliche.

not funny at all........those troops are poor ppl cant afford to pay the expensive crap in US sothe rich congress morons send them to die...[/quote]


Tough situation buddy, but they're on the wrong side, and deserve to die. That is not an excuse. At the end of the day they are still serving in an army of occupation and oppression. Rationalize, justify, or equivocate all you want - nothing will change this. So before you start indulging yourself in a spate of imperialism-apologist, reactionary bullshit, just remember the German soldiers in World War II stationed at the death camps were "products of the system" too.

Lets see 3,000 , 6,000 , 100,000 more![/quote]

lemme guess r u non-mulsim of arab descent?

No, why would you think that?

What ethnicity/nationality are you?

valkyrie wrote:No, why would you think that?

What ethnicity/nationality are you?

i am candain drinking canadian molsoin beer........ cos ethnicity can give an idea of a person's mind or perference..

Wow, you are one blood-thirsty guy Valkyrie.

kanelli wrote:

No, I do not support Hizbollah as an organisation. I will only support an official army associated with the Lebanese government which was elected by the majority of the Lebanese people.

To support anti-imperialism in Lebanon is to support Hizbollah as it is the *only* anti-imperialist military capable of meaningfully repelling and detering israeli and american invasion. It is not a rightwing organization it is a multi-tendency resistance and civil service group. The Lebonese Communist Party has called on its supporters to join Hizbollah in struggling against the Israeli invasion. Hizbollah announced that it will pay rent for a full year for all 15,000 families left homeless by the zionist bombing and invasion campaign while they rebuild their houses. If we're anti-imperialists who want to stop israeli expansion, who want to see arab bullets in zionist brains today instead of waiting for some hypothetical seperate and new army with no political basis to take the place of the Lebonese resistance at some hypothetical future date; than we are all Hezbollah.

I do not support Hezbollah in any internal political agenda, but no internal political agenda is possible or relevant under israeli genocidial occupation, and those who i would support politically, the Lebonese Communist Party, call on people to support Hezbollah's resistance. I wont reject the Lebonese working class just because i don't care for the flag they've decided to rally under, they struggle collectively against the imperialist aggressor either way.

Everyone seems to be wondering why terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.. Let's see now. . . .

No Jesus
No Christmas
No television
No cheerleaders
No baseball
No football
No hockey
No golf
No tailgate parties
No BB Q
No pork

No Wal-Mart
No Home Depot
No pork
No hot dogs
No burgers
No chocolate chip cookies
No lobster
No shellfish, or even frozen fish sticks
No gumbo
No jambalaya
No Beer

Rags for clothes and towels for hats.
Constant wailing from the guy next-door because he's sick and there are no doctors.
Constant wailing from the guy in the tower.
More than one wife.
You can't shave.
Your wives can't shave.
You can't shower to wash off the smell of donkey cooked over burning camel dung.
The women have to wear baggy dresses and veils at all times.
Your bride is picked by someone else.
She smells just like your donkey.
But your donkey has a better disposition.
Then they tell you that when you die it all gets better!

Is there really a mystery here?

Val, who are you to tell who deserves to die? Do YOU deserve to die?
I do not understand where in the hell you come from. Who the hell do you think you are that you can sit there and say those words???????????
Think about that one.

dubai girl wrote:Val, who are you to tell who deserves to die? Do YOU deserve to die?
I do not understand where in the hell you come from. Who the hell do you think you are that you can sit there and say those words???????????
Think about that one.

edit:

Exactly dubai girl! He's a bloodthirsty guy obviously.

Valkyrie, did you enjoy it a couple of days ago when a suicide bomber in Kandahar approached a Canadian army convoy that was distributing pencils and notebooks to a horde a children and blew himself up? He killed and injured more than just Canadian soldiers there... Perhaps you don't mind a little "collateral damage" for insurgents to acheive their goals, which actually makes the insurgents much like any other army on the planet with their view of "collateral damage". Something to think about next time you complain about civilian deaths, eh?

Valkyrie,
Why in the world would you show caskets with American Flags on your posts? That is sooooooooooooooooo disrespectfull. Have you no self respect? Are you that sick in the head? What is wrong with you taking joy about death? Death of anyone??? That is totally sicko and very gutsy of you.

dubai girl wrote:Valkyrie,
Why in the world would you show caskets with American Flags on your posts? That is sooooooooooooooooo disrespectfull. Have you no self respect? Are you that sick in the head? What is wrong with you taking joy about death? Death of anyone??? That is totally sicko and very gutsy of you.

It shows the mentality of some of these extremists and the "brainwashing". Its no wonder normal, honest, hardworking, civil and respectful people should to an extent, live in fear