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^Or, why doesn't eh tell us what difference there is between Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox and his particular view is on the question - is Hitler in heaven if he had sincerely accepted Christ as saviour before he died?

Is there a difference? Or do they all say he is in heaven?

Cheers,

Shafique

There are differences but all these say salvation comes from beleive in the sacrifice of Christ

Please cite that.

which is different than both Muslim and Jewish of faith + good works.

Many Jews believe faith is not required for salvation.

I won't argue what Muslims believe. You're free to believe faith is not required for salvation.

event horizon wrote:I won't argue what Muslims believe.

Excellent.

Then answer the question about whether Hitler is in heaven if he had accepted Christ sincerely before death then:

shafique wrote:what difference there is between Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox and his particular view is on the question - is Hitler in heaven if he had sincerely accepted Christ as saviour before he died?

Is there a difference? Or do they all say he is in heaven?

Cheers,
Shafique

event horizon wrote:Please cite that.

Check their respective sites.

Why is eh embarrassed to tell us his view first, and then how they differ from the other Christians (if it differs at all)?

Curious that.

Cheers,

Shafique

Nucleus wrote: event horizon wrote:Please cite that.

Check their respective sites.

Why would I when I didn't incorrectly claim what Christians and Jews believe?

event horizon wrote:Why would I when I didn't incorrectly claim what Christians and Jews believe?

Because then you can understand the correct beliefs as it appears you have some confusion about them. I only stated what is said on their repective sites. I don't know what your objection is about. If something is wrong show it were it is wrong.

shafique wrote:Why is eh embarrassed to tell us his view first, and then how they differ from the other Christians (if it differs at all)?

The evasiveness of eh is not even creative now. Fascinating to see him wriggle like this.

Cheers,

Shafique

I'll start with one of your incorrect beliefs - you claimed faith and good works is a requirement in Judaism for salvation.

In other words, without one or the other (such as faith), salvation is unattainable.

This is wrong. A quick google search shows that faith or belief is not required for "salvation" in Judaism.

Many Jews believe atheists will be admitted into their version of heaven.

Not only that, but faith / belief in their God is certainly no requirement.

So, one does not have to have faith/belief in Judaism and one could have no faith/belief at all and be rewarded in the afterlife.

event horizon wrote:I'll start with one of your incorrect beliefs - you claimed faith and good works is a requirement in Judaism for salvation.

event horizon wrote:Many Jews believe atheists will be admitted into their version of heaven.

Under the Noahide laws for non-jews, but not the Jews. But that is tricky subject. Judaism is more focused on action, hence, they normally say that. So an atheist who fits the noahide laws requirement can go to heaven.

But it is not that simple, http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/noahide.html

Anybody can see that to full fill the noahide laws it requires a level of faith, for example, law #4.

http://www.jewfaq.org/beliefs.htm

Here is an article written that is easy to understand http://journalistnikki.hubpages.com/hub ... -and-Islam

Thanks, there's your opinion and the view of Rabbis.

event horizon wrote:Thanks, there's your opinion and the view of Rabbis.

In Islam an atheist can go into heaven too, but it is a complicated subject and can get misunderstood.

And yet eh continues to refuse to tell us what he thinks Christianity teaches about salvation. Is it because he is afraid to tell us, or he doesn't know?

Cheers,

Shafique