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Not much to add really, except that this Lillith was drop dead gorgeous, one of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. If she walks into a room, EVERY heterosex.ual man gets his full attention. Months later I heard via via that she did end up in prostitution.

After I had sleep paralysis I read about it, only the scientific part though.
A buddy of mine also had sleep paralysis experiences, he did experience a person sitting on him and choking him, like so many others experienced. This is the interesting part, that from east to west, cultures that never had contact with each other describe(d) the same thing (a breeze thru the room and choked by someone). Amazing.

Your turn.

Yes true, I've heard old people from my folks villages deep in rural heartland of pakistan talking about this. I never really paid any attention to it then and thought it was just on of those crazy tales. I've also heard my folks relating similar stories of people they know.

Personally I dont know anyone who has experienced it yet. Is it frightning( I would assume it is ), if so like slightly or scare the jeepers out of one scary ?

I only experienced it once. The body is completely paralyzed. After the hallucination you become completely aware, but still paralyzed. I wanted to shoot "CALL EMERCENCY", but couldn't, couldn't even move my mouth. Then I got scared, not jeepers but the thought crossed my mind that I might be paralyzed the rest of my life. Actually thought about a CSI episode, where someone was given a drug that supposedly causes permanant sleep paralysis.
My friend had multiple experiences. Every time he has the choking experience. Every time he thinks he is near death, and yeah him it does give the jeepers.

Fascinating stuff.

My mum and others in my family believe in this stuff (paranormal etc). I'm still a sceptic - I guess I just haven't experienced it yet and hence I try to rationalise things.

In Islam there is room for the belief in ghosts etc - and indeed I've heard of other accounts of pious people experiencing things pressing down on them when asleep/in bed etc - so I don't dismiss the accounts, I'm just naturally sceptical. I take the view that it is real for those recounting the experiences.

Cheers,
Shafique

seardarren wrote:This going to sound like I'm a nut job but who cares?

The last few nights my wife and I have heard some seriously creepy sounds coming from the Villa. My wife thinks she has seen people walking into the bedroom and I can hear children playing when i know there are none. My favourite sound so far is a child dropping what sounds like a ball bearing from height then hearing the bounce increase as it gets closer to the floor.

We asked out neighbours about any previous complaints (she has lived next door 12 years) and all she would say is that in her time, there have been many people rent this Villa. She has also heard the sounds though, she thought we were some weirdo's with strange habbits until we told her this. It's not the AC as it's been turned off. It's not the multiple fridge compressors. It's spooky!

The villa is about 30 years old, which is a fair innings for this place i suppose. Anything could have happened........

If you are a muslim
Insha allah read this verses from the quran.

ayat al kursie
amana rasulu bimaa....till the end
qul huwa lahu a7ad .....till the end
qul a3udu bi rabbil falaq...till the end
qul a3udu bi rabbi naas...till the end

when you enter ure house read:
"bismi lahi waladjna bismilahi gharadjna wa 3ala rabinna tawakalna"

when you exit ure house read:
"bismilah tawakaltu 3ala allah wa laa hawla wala quwata illa billah"

when you enter ure bathroom/toilet read:
"bismilah allahumma innie a3udu bikka minnal ghubti wal ghaba-it (dont say it inside the toilet--->outside)

when you exit toilet read:
"ghufranak"



if you have dogs in ure house remove them i tell you why if you are a muslim you should know why.
we muslims love animals too but there is a reason.
if you have a dog who bark/woof at night, be shore you have djins or shaytan in ure house coz they can see what we don't see.

most of djinns live in a house where they don't mention the name of allah.
if you dont pray for allah be shore the djinn is ure compagnon/ure friend/ure mate/ure soul bcz yes they enter body's after a while.if they see the chance to enter ure body wallahi they enter.

ghair insha allah

my uncle is exorcist in europe (manny bad djinns and demons in peaples body's)
i know you don't belive in the unseen but really if you read this parts of the quran you or ure house will cure/heal/recover

allah said in the quran:

wa nunazilu minnal qurani maa huwa shifaa un wa ra7matul lil mu-mineen.

may allah blessure house and ure family

wa alaykum salam

Wow, thanks BM, a most informative answer.

Things have quietened down a bit recently, but there is still the occasional object falling in the middle of the night.

I'll make sure they remain our friends!

shafique wrote:Fascinating stuff.

My mum and others in my family believe in this stuff (paranormal etc). I'm still a sceptic - I guess I just haven't experienced it yet and hence I try to rationalise things.

In Islam there is room for the belief in ghosts etc - and indeed I've heard of other accounts of pious people experiencing things pressing down on them when asleep/in bed etc - so I don't dismiss the accounts, I'm just naturally sceptical. I take the view that it is real for those recounting the experiences.

Cheers,
Shafique

I think your right about "it" targetting pious people. I mean why frighten a sinner who is doomed to hell already.
Although I also regard pious people to be gullible and susceptible to imagining things.
We already know that most of what we see is generated within the brain and not seen by the eyes. Feeling, hearing etc can all be imagined.

Just get a imam to your house, if theyre bad theyll go and never come back, if theyre goood , im not sure