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I'm sure that women who grow up to wear a burqa etc. feel it is normal because that is how they grew up! So many people don't question anything. If a woman says she likes to dress like that, that is fine, but she'd give the same answer if she was raised to dress in shorts and a t-shirt.

On a hot day in Montreal I saw two instances that I think are unfair. In one residential park I watched some orthodox Jewish girls trying to play outside wearing stockings, long pencil skirts, longs sleeves, high collar and hair covered. They hardly had the mobility to play and it was so hot outside! What should they do, play indoors all summer so they don't overheat? What about getting some nice sun on their skin! Who knows, maybe they are all taking vitamin D supplements. :roll: In a water-side park a Muslim family was out together. The man was wearing shorts and a t-shirt and playing soccer with his small son. The woman was draped in black from head to toe (except face). I cannot figure how that is comfortable in that heat, and it impedes her from playing ball with her son as well. Why wasn't her husband wearing more traditional dress with long sleeves and long skirt/pants? He'd be very jealous if other men looked twice at his wife, but it seems okay for him to show his body and possibly allow women to give him a second glance in front of his wife. Now that is equality, isn't it? :roll:

Women in my culture who dress super-s.ex.y in itty bitty outfits are also influenced by men. They know that they can dress to impress them and exert power over them. Women can perhaps more easily manipulate men when dressing that way, but they are also falling into a trap of gaining their self-worth by catering to the fantasies of men.

I would never tell another woman how to dress, because I believe that women should be able to choose to do what they want.

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kanelli wrote:I wouldn't never tell another woman how to dress, because I believe that women should be able to choose to do what they want.


Amen.
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Now I don't know what side of the fence to sit on!!

I'm so confused by it all!!
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Corcovado wrote:yes my dear ... Nefertiti and cleopatra in ancient egypt... Balkis...in old ages god was a Female ... the world was much better... now men...they want war.."boys and their toys" and weapons of mass destruction ...Alot of men rape women all over the world .. and the woman must iron her Breast and wear a veil to cover her body and face so men dont follow their animal instinct and rape her... :evil: :evil: Men Need decpline


Before sixth century, many people studied on human being, so got many philosopher, psychologist, scientist and world famous writers & poets but now all people (10years-above 60years) waste their time to chat or watch show at AFF website. Men not need discipline only, man need to study for human being knowledge.
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Corcovado wrote:yes my dear ... Nefertiti and cleopatra in ancient egypt... Balkis...in old ages god was a Female ... the world was much better... now men...they want war.."boys and their toys" and weapons of mass destruction ...Alot of men rape women all over the world .. and the woman must iron her Breast and wear a veil to cover her body and face so men dont follow their animal instinct and rape her... :evil: :evil: Men Need decpline


Before sixth century, many people studied on human being, so got many philosopher, psychologist, scientist and world famous writers & poets but now all people (10years-above 60years) waste their time to chat or watch show at AFF website. Men not need discipline only, man need to study for human being knowledge.



Oh no... he's starting to post outside the topic he created :cry:
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Corcovado wrote:yes my dear ... Nefertiti and cleopatra in ancient egypt... Balkis...in old ages god was a Female ... the world was much better... now men...they want war.."boys and their toys" and weapons of mass destruction ...Alot of men rape women all over the world .. and the woman must iron her Breast and wear a veil to cover her body and face so men dont follow their animal instinct and rape her... :evil: :evil: Men Need decpline


Before sixth century, many people studied on human being, so got many philosopher, psychologist, scientist and world famous writers & poets but now all people (10years-above 60years) waste their time to chat or watch show at AFF website. Men not need discipline only, man need to study for human being knowledge.[/quote


Oh no... he's starting to post outside the topic he created :cry:



I don't know why man afraid to listen truth, can you tell what is its reason?
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interesting article Jul 11, 2006
Now celebs need burkas

These days their every personal flaw is being exposed. There's only one way to fight back

Kathryn Hughes
Monday July 10, 2006
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The tabloid newspapers and celebrity magazines have greeted the arrival of high-definition television (HDTV) with a kind of whooping glee. In a string of "before and after" photo features, they offer previews of what terrible secrets Teri Hatcher, Keira Knightley and Elizabeth Hurley are about to have exposed to the cruel gaze of the world at large (respectively, hectic flush, acne, crows' feet). The message is clear: in this new economy of super-sightedness, power has passed from the looked-upon to the looker. No amount of covering up with slap is going to save you from a kind of visual rape in which you and your enlarged pores are laid bare before the world's probing, mocking glance.


This savage scopic economy (that's what cultural theorists call it, anyway) has been in the ascendant for some time now. Witness Heat magazine's weekly "circle of shame" feature, where attention is directed to a malfunctioning bit of a celebrity's body that might otherwise have gone unnoticed: fingers that resemble claws, ears that droop like an elephant's, an apparent third nipple ... and all ringed and tagged to make sure that no amount of lipsticky smiles can distract you, the viewer, from your stern task of seeking out the visual truth in a world of smoke and mirrors.

In this new x-ray world there will be few hiding places, and so the options left to those most likely to be caught in the public gaze are severely limited. The old-fashioned approach might simply be to redouble your disguise and hope that the all-seeing eye will skim over you before passing on to more important targets. To this end the beauty columns in the high-end newspapers are suggesting a product called Cover FX, a skin foundation originally developed to deal with burns and vitiligo, now being sold as just the thing to take with you when you go into battle with HDTV. Its dense putty layers will, quite simply, blot you out, reducing you to a kind of blank screen on which a new, more pleasing face may be painted.

The other, more modern approach is to glory in your fakeness, joyfully drawing attention to the fact that you have been assembled with the world's searching gaze in mind. You can see this in the Big Brother house, where none of the female contestants is remotely bothered about having had breast enhancements. Instead, here - as elsewhere - the talk is all about size, shape and provenance. In the press, too, the talk is no longer about has she/hasn't she had cosmetic surgery, but about who has got it right (Anne Robinson) and who has got it wrong (the hapless Teri Hatcher, who is fast becoming a terrible warning about what can happen to a nice woman in the savage age of high definition).

Then again, consider the wives and girlfriends of the England soccer team, who were recently accompanied to Germany by a couple of operatives from the Fake Bake tanning company. No one pretended for a moment that a job lot of pasty girls from the chilly north-west of England owed their gleaming golden tans to anything other than artifice. Indeed, far from being kept secret, like postmodern madwomen in the attic, allowed out after dark only with their spray cans to perform their magic art, the fake bakers were incorporated into the Baden-Baden narrative as surely as Coleen's luggage or, indeed, Posh's breasts.

In these circumstances you can begin to see the point of the burka. Every now and then a Muslim feminist will write a piece for the papers suggesting that turning yourself into a small black tent is, in fact, marvellously liberating since it removes you at a stroke from the scopic economy. Until now that logic has always seemed strangely topsy-turvy, but in the age of high definition it may indeed turn out to be the only truly practical choice.

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MaaaD wrote:Now celebs need burkas

These days their every personal flaw is being exposed. There's only one way to fight back

Kathryn Hughes
Monday July 10, 2006
The Guardian


The tabloid newspapers and celebrity magazines have greeted the arrival of high-definition television (HDTV) with a kind of whooping glee. In a string of "before and after" photo features, they offer previews of what terrible secrets Teri Hatcher, Keira Knightley and Elizabeth Hurley are about to have exposed to the cruel gaze of the world at large (respectively, hectic flush, acne, crows' feet). The message is clear: in this new economy of super-sightedness, power has passed from the looked-upon to the looker. No amount of covering up with slap is going to save you from a kind of visual rape in which you and your enlarged pores are laid bare before the world's probing, mocking glance.


This savage scopic economy (that's what cultural theorists call it, anyway) has been in the ascendant for some time now. Witness Heat magazine's weekly "circle of shame" feature, where attention is directed to a malfunctioning bit of a celebrity's body that might otherwise have gone unnoticed: fingers that resemble claws, ears that droop like an elephant's, an apparent third nipple ... and all ringed and tagged to make sure that no amount of lipsticky smiles can distract you, the viewer, from your stern task of seeking out the visual truth in a world of smoke and mirrors.

In this new x-ray world there will be few hiding places, and so the options left to those most likely to be caught in the public gaze are severely limited. The old-fashioned approach might simply be to redouble your disguise and hope that the all-seeing eye will skim over you before passing on to more important targets. To this end the beauty columns in the high-end newspapers are suggesting a product called Cover FX, a skin foundation originally developed to deal with burns and vitiligo, now being sold as just the thing to take with you when you go into battle with HDTV. Its dense putty layers will, quite simply, blot you out, reducing you to a kind of blank screen on which a new, more pleasing face may be painted.

The other, more modern approach is to glory in your fakeness, joyfully drawing attention to the fact that you have been assembled with the world's searching gaze in mind. You can see this in the Big Brother house, where none of the female contestants is remotely bothered about having had breast enhancements. Instead, here - as elsewhere - the talk is all about size, shape and provenance. In the press, too, the talk is no longer about has she/hasn't she had cosmetic surgery, but about who has got it right (Anne Robinson) and who has got it wrong (the hapless Teri Hatcher, who is fast becoming a terrible warning about what can happen to a nice woman in the savage age of high definition).

Then again, consider the wives and girlfriends of the England soccer team, who were recently accompanied to Germany by a couple of operatives from the Fake Bake tanning company. No one pretended for a moment that a job lot of pasty girls from the chilly north-west of England owed their gleaming golden tans to anything other than artifice. Indeed, far from being kept secret, like postmodern madwomen in the attic, allowed out after dark only with their spray cans to perform their magic art, the fake bakers were incorporated into the Baden-Baden narrative as surely as Coleen's luggage or, indeed, Posh's breasts.

In these circumstances you can begin to see the point of the burka. Every now and then a Muslim feminist will write a piece for the papers suggesting that turning yourself into a small black tent is, in fact, marvellously liberating since it removes you at a stroke from the scopic economy. Until now that logic has always seemed strangely topsy-turvy, but in the age of high definition it may indeed turn out to be the only truly practical choice.

kathryn.hughes@btinternet.com


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Vegie you're one of a kind! :lol:

And Maaad nice find as usual :wink:
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Nick81 wrote:Vegie you're one of a kind! :lol:

And Maaad nice find as usual :wink:


but nick81, u did not reply me about this question "I don't know why man afraid to listen truth, can you tell what is its reason?"
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Nick81 wrote:Vegie you're one of a kind! :lol:

And Maaad nice find as usual :wink:


but nick81, u did not reply me about this question "I don't know why man afraid to listen truth, can you tell what is its reason?"



You're not ready to listen to the truth weakling.
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V, do you mean men as in males, or men as in human beings?
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kanelli wrote:V, do you mean men as in males, or men as in human beings?



Oh no K., don't get him started... :lol:
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Nick81 wrote:Vegie you're one of a kind! :lol:

And Maaad nice find as usual :wink:


but nick81, u did not reply me about this question "I don't know why man afraid to listen truth, can you tell what is its reason?"



You're not ready to listen to the truth weakling.


if u tell then i m ready for listening, but pls tell me that is "81" yr age?
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kanelli wrote:V, do you mean men as in males, or men as in human beings?



men always male but men never female and human is same of both, male and female
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Re: interesting article Jul 11, 2006
have u got tiger?
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Just puppies.
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kanelli wrote:V, do you mean men as in males, or men as in human beings?



men always male but men never female and human is same of both, male and female


See what I meant K? :lol:
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vegael2003 wrote:have u got tiger?



Now now Vegie, behave!
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Concord wrote:Just puppies.



thanks for puppies
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kanelli wrote:V, do you mean men as in males, or men as in human beings?



men always male but men never female and human is same of both, male and female


See what I meant K? :lol:


K will not see, he is thinking now
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Concord wrote:Just puppies.



thanks for puppies



Now Vegie what did we say about touching ourselves at night? The boogeyman will come to get ya!
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kanelli wrote:V, do you mean men as in males, or men as in human beings?



men always male but men never female and human is same of both, male and female


See what I meant K? :lol:


K will not see, he is thinking now


"he" ? :lol: :lol: He's all yours K.
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Nick81 wrote:
vegael2003 wrote:
Nick81 wrote:
vegael2003 wrote:
kanelli wrote:V, do you mean men as in males, or men as in human beings?



men always male but men never female and human is same of both, male and female


See what I meant K? :lol:


K will not see, he is thinking now


"he" ? :lol: :lol: He's all yours K.


he or she not problem, but u did not reply me about the meaning of "81", is it yr age?
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vegael2003 wrote:
Nick81 wrote:
vegael2003 wrote:
Nick81 wrote:
vegael2003 wrote:
kanelli wrote:V, do you mean men as in males, or men as in human beings?



men always male but men never female and human is same of both, male and female


See what I meant K? :lol:


K will not see, he is thinking now


"he" ? :lol: :lol: He's all yours K.


he or she not problem, but u did not reply me about the meaning of "81", is it yr age?


i see a pattern here hmmmm :roll: :roll:
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:lol:
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I give up... :lol:
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Nick :lol:

Yet another thread goes off-track... seems to be contagious here. :wink:
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kanelli wrote:Nick :lol:

Yet another thread goes off-track... seems to be contagious here. :wink:



Yeah... And somehow I am always involved when that happens. Won't take long til I get a warning or sent off to some reeducation camp. I just need to learn to abide by the forum's rules... :lol:
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No, you aren't to blame this time around. 8)
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