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Indeed, because I'm sorry but 'down trodden' was not a pun. And maybe you should pick up a copy of the Dictionary next time, instead of a Thesaurus?

hey.. it was an old school joke... don't take it so seriously...

i just remembered it and thought of throwing it here to see if anybody could catch it..

and choco.. i told to refer to a thesaurus.. just to make it simple for u blokes to understand it better.....peace..

Ajoy, first of all I'm not a bloke.

Second a dictionary gives explanations of words, a thesaurus gives alternative words with the same meaning. So in this case a dictionary would be a the more appropriate tool.

I'm not taking things seriously. It wasn't funny, it wasn't a pun, it might be 'old skool' but no-one else has ever heard of it, nor did it make any sense.

Therefor in conclusion it was irrelevant.

but you acted like one.. cos if you go by the dictionary, you can never make sense...

the author of this thread could make some sense out of it... you couldnt..not because u havent undersood it..

.. its because u are a feminist and u couldnt take this joke..as a joke..

Aww don't beat Ajoy up, i kinda got it. she probably read aussie's post as his friend's were getting a bit saggy or down and needed to be uplifted, I don’t think she meant it as an insult just maybe not the funniest of jokes.

Back on topic, I’m personally not for them, one of my roomies while in school got hers done, she was hot to begin with and was a beer tub girl at one of the bars, so believe it or not work paid for them. It did help her confidence and tips increased, plus for the first month someone had to do the tough job of massaging them every night to ensure the most natural look by preventing hardening , so not all bad. But after she got them done, she started getting self conscious about her nose, it is downward spiral imho

It is sad that society forces so many young women and increasing number of men to be so disappointed with what they see in the mirror.

Fayaz disagree if a man or women wants to do anything to their body that is their choice.Some people mind you go to the extremes ie: MJ a lot of people use the old society line all the time but really would you change your self because it is what society dictates????>Iam not old enough to need any thing well I hope not anyway but iam sure in the future if I do i know that I have the choice

Personally, I wouldn't have plastic surgery unless I was in an accident or something and needed reconstructive surgery. I figure that I should be happy with the way I look.

kanelli good to see you think that way but still dont see it as being an issue unless you take to the extreme.Its like saying to woman who wears padded bras they arent happy with their fig which is un true isnt they just want to look their best

Pedantics, boys and girls...

Personally, the size of a ladies assets are not as important as whats inside her head.

Yes, its a bonus 'If she is fit' and a we all need a little help from time to time to hold back the ravages of time and nature, but being obsessed with looking like a Californian Barbie Doll is a silly objective.

Grow old...disgracefully!



Knight

DK she doesnt want to look like a barbie doll just a bit better why not i say

To do this when you are perfectly normal and not in discomfort or what have you is explained by the subconscience lack of confidence in one's self.

If one has full self-confidence, one will not undertake such a proceedure unless one's life is threatened or simply, there is something with ones body causing discomfort (ie. Choco's pelvic moles )

Because any woman who spends more time cultivating her brain really doesn't pay attention to whether her breasts would look better a D cup rather than a B cup. Also, getting breasts done costs thousands of dirhams, when a padded bra costs a hundred dirhams - so those really aren't exactly the same thing. I suppose that being a slave to the cosmetics and beauty industry is similar to being a slave to plastic surgery - a lot of money goest to products and procedures year in and year out to try to fight aging and imperfection. I'd rather spend the money on trips to other countries, charity, and retirement funds.

kanelli wrote:I'd rather spend the money on trips to other countries, charity, and retirement funds.

Exactly!

I think thats a bit harsh K. If you were to apply that across the board then the issue of looking nice in nice clothes aslo apply.

If the issue of cosmetics and surgery is that relevant to how one one want to look good or improve, then the same would apply to what clothes you wear, and whether or not the cost justifies the means ( and were they made in a slave factory in the far east)

Arnie great point

Choosing a top or pants etc. that suit your body type and therefore make you look good, is not the same thing as having a vacuum stuck under you skin to suck cellulite out, or having a knife used to cut you open and reshape whatever you want reshaped.

I was also refering to cosmetics that promise to make you look half your age, when really they only provide superficial results. So many people spend a lot of money on those products! Diet and exercise are what help keep you young, not what is applied topically to the skin etc. A lot of those anti-aging products contain a cocktail of chemicals that are damaging to people's health.

Liban, they were only my back around my bra line if you must know!!!

I can see the for and against. But there are less invasive surgeries now and there are better things than Botox as well, some people totally overdo that.

Interestingly enough 'cellulite' was 'invented' by the cosmetic industry as an excuse to put loads of products on the shelves which cost a fortune and do absolutely nothing. This kind of fat is absolutely natural and the orange peel effect is normally caused by fat cells getting caught in certain areas. Excercise, drinking plenty of water and massaging the areas will reduce it just as well as any cream will.

kanelli wrote:Choosing a top or pants etc. that suit your body type and therefore make you look good, is not the same thing as having a vacuum stuck under you skin to suck cellulite out, or having a knife used to cut you open and reshape whatever you want reshaped.

I still disagree K. What we/how we present ourselves is Vanity period. Personally speaking, i can draw no difference between wearing clothes that make you look good, whether you wax or shave your legs, use make up, have nice hair/differnt style or altering a part of yourself to make yourself look better.

Well, we can't all walk around naked, so at some point we have to consider clothing choices.

Some people spend hours grooming and dressing every day. Is that a good use of time? Some would say yes, some would say no.

Some people spend much of their free time shopping for clothes and cosmetics, and they own lots of clothes and beauty products. This is not the norm for all people - some people buy what they need and spend the rest of their leisure hours playing sports, reading a book, volunteering, studying, etc.

Kanelli I think you hit the point right on the head people can spend their money on what they want so what is the issue if a man wants to get rid of his love handles with a bit of lipo or a women wants to get new boobs so they look better in their clothes so what go for it if you dont want to again thats their choice

uaeaussie wrote:Kanelli I think you hit the point right on the head people can spend their money on what they want so what is the issue if a man wants to get rid of his love handles with a bit of lipo or a women wants to get new boobs so they look better in their clothes so what go for it if you dont want to again thats their choice

The difference is that the guy could get rid of his love handles by changing his diet and exercise, plus his muscles, joints, heart, lungs etc. would also improve in condition as well as the cosmetic benefits if he were to go that route instead of surgery.

The woman can suffer infections and problems with the implants, and many boobs jobs look fake, especially when you are old and you have perky boobs while the rest of you is sagging.

Nowadays people want instant gratification and they want more - they aren't as willing to work hard to see results or be happy with what they have. Even if something is dangerous to our health we would risk it for instant gratification. This is reflected in the whole plastic surgery issue. (At least in my mind it is.)

kanelli wrote:Well, we can't all walk around naked, so at some point we have to consider clothing choices.

Some people spend hours grooming and dressing every day. Is that a good use of time? Some would say yes, some would say no.

Some people spend much of their free time shopping for clothes and cosmetics, and they own lots of clothes and beauty products. This is not the norm for all people - some people buy what they need and spend the rest of their leisure hours playing sports, reading a book, volunteering, studying, etc.

K first of all apologies for messing up your post, i realised i used "edit" instead of "quote". ( i can edit because of mod status ). It was my mistake entirely.



Agreed K, but none of it makes it right or wrong, and thats my point. It is unfair to compare what is right for one, it may not right for someone else. That equally applies to cosmetic surgery.

Being unhappy with a part of your body and having it sorted, is no different to being unhappy with your wardrobe or having hairy legs waxed/shaved.

If someone chooses to endure pain on the operating, it is for no one but themselves to comment. I know you like to use your spare time to do constructive things you may enjoy, others would consider that not for them and spend their time and money otherwise.

At the end of the day its horses for courses.

Agree with Kanelli and Arnie...however it's an extended syndrome of the "I want it, and I want it now!" society we are living in. A structured programme of diet and excercise can eventually get you the shape or physique you want, but it is hard work and can take time. Surgery is a comparatively instant salve to the self conscious. It can make someone feel mentally more confident if they think they look like the ideal in their own head, but the risks to health and the long term effects are not considered at the time.

Biologically, the majority of topical lotions and potions available on the market are a waste of money as they have absolutely no effect. the skin is an impermeable membrane, it is designed to keep our essential bits in and unwanted substances out. Anything that therefore claims to have 'deep penetrating properties' or 'remove any wrinkles' or 'moisturise', is false. Lanolin is the main ingredient of most of these lotions and can make skin temporary more supple on the surface and costs about 5Dhs in any pharmacy. Age smoothing cream? My arse!

However there are some benefits to society from plastic surgery:

If we did not have liposuction, there would be no McDonalds milk shakes!
And if we did not have breast implants, Jordan would not be keeping most of the spotty adolescent youth of the planet using tissues!



Knight

Grass doesnt grow in desert but ppl in dubai like it and it looks good... so if someone wants to get a boob-job done then its upto them. frankly its upto an individual.
Both ways its unnatural and will cost a lot of money and then artificial is artificial after all. You got to take care of it and its not lasting.
I wonder if they feel original? Havent tried though.....

I dont understand why so many girls are obsessed with getting boob jobs?????

My mother always said that more than a handful is a waste of space

Seriously though...i dont believe that huge boobs are attractive....


Fair enough if you've got two fried eggs, but otherwise, why bother??

Tell me you agree gentlemen......?????

Anyone hear about the latest development in sugery to keep boobs uplifted? A surgeon in Brussels has started using a titanium 'shelve' which sort of cups the existing breast. It's bolted onto the rib cage and apparently he's had good results so far. Although kinda weird, when you're dead and buried all that will be left will be titanium shelves - hehehe - nice!

IV no one is saying to get huge boobs my friend has sagging ones that are about half their normal size as they were before child birth all she wants is to go back to what they were before.Agree with you that massive ones arent the best and maybe when you get older you too may feel that you need a bit of improvement.In relation to men being able to get rid of love handles but diet change etc well i know a few who train and eat properly and still have issue when they are in mid 30s.I dont think a woman or man in there 20s should go for plastic surgery as not needed but late thirties and 40s yes go for it

It is of course everyone's own individual choice as to whether they want to have plastic surgery or not. I made comments because comments and opinions were solicited in this thread.

uaeaussie wrote:IV no one is saying to get huge boobs my friend has sagging ones that are about half their normal size as they were before child birth all she wants is to go back to what they were before.Agree with you that massive ones arent the best and maybe when you get older you too may feel that you need a bit of improvement.In relation to men being able to get rid of love handles but diet change etc well i know a few who train and eat properly and still have issue when they are in mid 30s.I dont think a woman or man in there 20s should go for plastic surgery as not needed but late thirties and 40s yes go for it

Fair enough...id say ill probably be the first to get a boob lift when im older and saggier....