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firefingersx wrote:I think what they are trying to say is that if he were a Muslim or an Arab of some nature, you will see everyone making a huge thing about it and will be charged with a 1000s of crimes but since he is British like chocoholic said ( he is just drunk) !

But if he had been Muslim he wouldn't have been drunk.

There's no denying that certain sections of the British media like to over exaggerate certain issues, but these are generally the red tops that cater for the, hmmm, how to put it, less educated members of society.
The types of people who prefer to believe in stereotypes, xenophobia and the Loch Ness Monster.

Certain posters appear to display the same traits on here, but from an Arab/Muslim perspective by casting wild assumptions about how possibly a member of a different society would be treated given a hypothetical situation.
If people are going to start claiming discrimination and unfair treatment against one section of society then I'd rather it was followed up with some hard and fast facts.

Oh, and by the way, does anybody know that this Brit was released without charge and told to behave himself next time, or does he actually have a trial pending for this incident ?

OK, can we at least get some facts right here first!

FF, the plane was on the ground at the time, passengers were waiting to get off the aircraft and he got angry because the process was being delayed.

C, 'If he was Muslim he wouldn't have been drunk' - PLEASE!!!! A lot of Muslims drink! As soon as they get on aircraft out of here, the national dress comes off and they're downing the booze, heck you see guys in Dish dash in bars here with a pint.

Chocoholic wrote:C, 'If he was Muslim he wouldn't have been drunk' - PLEASE!!!! A lot of Muslims drink! As soon as they get on aircraft out of here, the national dress comes off and they're downing the booze, heck you see guys in Dish dash in bars here with a pint.

I know, I was just stirring it a bit

It is something that is getting more common place these days as well.
I can think of a dozen places in Abu Dhabi off the top of my head where I've been sitting beside blokes in dish dashes happily drinking alcohol - but that's for a whole different debate which I'm sure won't be too far away.

CVB wrote:I still fail to see your reasoning as to why the drunk should be described as a terrorist.
You have a chip on your shoulder because muslims get described as terrorists and you want to see somebody else tarred with the same brush.

Now youre taking this to the personal level - personal insults, accusations and such without knowing much about me in first place.

You've lost the argument right here mate

In certain countries he would have been shot ???

Name them please. I don't think there are many countries where somebody would fire a gun in a packed passenger plane.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2590309.stm

And an independent security expert said crucially, their guns would be made especially for use inside a plane.

"The type of weaponry and the calibre of ammunition used is designed not to penetrate the skin of the aircraft, but to actually deal with a human target," said Mike Bluestone, head of BSB Group security consultants.

I don't see a reason neither to call the guy a terrorists, but if you chocoholic and CVB are looking for facts and reasoning , how come 1000s of Muslims and Arabs were sent to jail for over a year and then released with no charges since the 9/11? Just for the fact they were from a cretin family name as someone who is wanted ? or the fact that he is living in cretin village ? and you are asking us to think logically and be reasonable ?

But according to the western world logic, yes he should've been charged or at least got the same treat of those who were taking away from their families and countries for a year in jail and then released with no charges ! the UK supported the United state in this issue , didn't they ?

Practice what you preach people.


Chocoholic, for your security analysis to the situation that the plan was on the ground , does not make him less dangerous to the passengers and the airport it self . and don't make me start talking about bombs rang 

I'm sure the poor guy is just a drunken passenger who mint no harm but again for disturbing and causing panic to others and threaten women and children, yes he is a terrorist on a small scale .

Please do not defend anyone careless & irresponsible act in anyway , you might somehow engorge others to be or do so .

Oh don't start me on the whole 9/11 thing, which is a load of BS anyway, FF I'll agree with you on that.

I'm certainly not defending anyone who would make such a stupid threat as this guy did, and I fail to see why everyone is arguing over the use of a word, which in this case is irrelevant.

You seem to think that the whole terrorist thing is new, not so, please bear in mind that we have dealt with terrorists in the UK for decades on end, thanks to the IRA and other factions.

I also agree on both of you, but I think best solution on this issue, is to stop the "Airline Companies" from serving liquor and alcoholic drinks on board in order to avoid this kind of situations.

But talking about "BOMBS" even if it's a joke? Then I guess, it's not tolerable.

SicnarFranciS wrote:I also agree on both of you, but I think best solution on this issue, is to stop the "Airline Companies" from serving liquor and alcoholic drinks on board.

I do hope you're not including Business Class my good man. By all means, stop the riff-raff from causing a scene but let's not think we're achieving anything by denying me my Californian Merlot!

Sorry. Don't agree at all with the booze banning proposal. Why the hell should I have to suffer because of some ignorant, Big Brother watchin, Sun reading, shaven-haired, City-supporting [ ], google-*ssed, benshermanshirt wearing thug ?

I hope the Chinese family got his face on a photo and his butt will be well and truely fried the next time he's in city centre Chinatown !

......ok....... calm now.

I've heard this argument many times about booze on planes. I, for one, love drinking on planes. I'm not a happy bunny when flying and a coupla vinos make me smile and fall asleep. Without smelling too much, I hasten to add

Isn't it all about personal choice and the consequences of your actions ? If the fella is drunk and abusive, he SHOLD be jailed. Period. But I can hardly stretch that argument to he-was-a-terrorist-and-should-be-shot !

BTW, for all those who witnessed a VERY chemically inconvenienced g00se this week on one of the flights back here, you will confirm that I was rather more smiley than usual !!!!!!! No fighting. No abuse. Just snorey [and I even apologised to my fellow passenger - much to his hilarity].