U.A.E Racism Against Immigrant !!! Outragous

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Aug 30, 2005
Thanks you guys.

maJOR pAIN ..

I believe it is time to introduce something like "permanent residence" to immigrants in the country, without regard to their ethnicities, European, Arab and Asian alike.

Hopefully something like that will occur soon, especially with the legislation of the 99 year visa type. Things are getting better.

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Aug 30, 2005
Can I borrow some money? Just let me borrow like a few million, I give it back :wink:
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Aug 31, 2005
Hey Distressed,

I have to say it's great to have an Emirati with opinions and views such as yours. (sadly not all are as open minded and forward thinking). People such as yourself are the way forward in this country and I hope that your visions become realised.

The UAE has made me and my family very welcome for the last 8 years and I hope that we'll be here for a while to come yet.
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Oct 24, 2005
Chocoholic wrote:Ok with regard to clubs and door policies, you have to remember that clubs and bars are also businesses, their aim is to make money. The best way for them to cash in obviously is over the bar, now having observed this for a fact and spoken to many door staff, the western expats as we all know are drinkers, they like nothing more than getting their wallets out and getting plastered, so obviously clubs like these kinds of people. Where as people from other nationalities will order a bottle of water between 4 of them, plus don't get offended but we all know there are certain guys who just stand and lear at the women all night and make it an uncomfortable atmosphere.

Locals are not allowed to enter these establishments in their local dress, if they're wearing western attire then it's fine.


Umm, I beg to differ... big spenders at clubs are not Westerners but actually Asians. When was the last time I saw a Westerner pick up a tab in the VPS section for 10,000 DHS? :roll: However, I have many Indian and Lebanese friends who book tables and run up huge tabs...

To the original poster, things aint hat bad now as many clubs realize who the big spenders are 8)
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Oct 25, 2005
It was just what I heard straight from the doormen's mouth.

But yeah the Lebanese go mental in the clubs too. Of course there are well off and harding working Indians/Asians too, but this is where they become a victim of pre-conceived ideas in the UAE, because the majority are employed as low wage workers, many people lump them all in the same category.
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Oct 25, 2005
Chocoholic wrote:It was just what I heard straight from the doormen's mouth.

But yeah the Lebanese go mental in the clubs too. Of course there are well off and harding working Indians/Asians too, but this is where they become a victim of pre-conceived ideas in the UAE, because the majority are employed as low wage workers, many people lump them all in the same category.


True I suppose.. though most people can tell a well off indian / businessman from the labourers and lower class pretty easliy.. and most big businessmen in the UAE fall under Arab or Indian nationality..
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eye opening :shock: didnt know about free water and electricity, suppose you would be jealous..teehee actually didnt know there was water charges..thought i was going to get away from that in the uk, please God (Allah) tell me theres no council tax nearly died of death with that, in ireland there is neither of those charges, but we do have a fair bit of racism as the ports are just opening the last few years for more "outsiders" to come in, but their the ones taking over and running buisnesses.....Now living in the desert with a few camals does sound nice....at least youd get a tan, so when u visit home and its pissing raining youve got sun glow beaming and radiating from your skin and make all your friends and relitives envious hehehe, where am i going with this.......serious issue though needed a bit of lightening :wink:
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Feb 06, 2006
Shouldnt locals be treated a bit better then non-locals?

I mean, it is THEIR country, and they have the right to allow you in or not. I understand that immigrants help build most countries, but still I think locals should always receive preferential treatment.

There is a reason why people leave their own country, and with all of the good immigration brings, it also brings alot of bad.
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Feb 07, 2006
Oh good, then if I move back to the UK, can I get preferential treatment because I'm a 'local'?
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Feb 07, 2006
You dont think Locals should get preferential treatment? I know its kind of a touchy subject because you have been an expat for a long time and contributed alot to your new home ---- but deep down do you feel like you are always 100 percent equal with people that are UAE blood?

Not all of them can go to the UK and get equal rights.

I might be totally wrong, I am just really interested in your opinion about it.
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Feb 08, 2006
Well of course it's 'their' country, but that doesn't mean some of them have to be ignorant about sharing it with those who're contributing to it and actually building the place.

Some of the attitudes suck, for example a friend of mine went to the cinema and a local guy was yapping away loudly on his phone, she asked him politely to take the call outside or talk later, his response was 'It's my country I'll do what the hell I want' - charming attitude. You see the UAE has opened it's doors to expats and relies heavily on tourism now for it's income so attitudes like this have to change, you have to be tolerant and be willing to share things with others.

I mean the situation in the UK takes the p***, you have all these guys coming in who sponge off the system take the council housing etc, what about the people who've lived there all their lives who just get moved off the waiting lists for these people - it sucks!

Thankfully, most nationals aren't like the arsehole I mentioned above.
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Feb 10, 2006
What do you think the future of imagrants in Dubai is? I am 16 years and old, in my future I am planning on going to med school and then open a practice in Dubai. Do you think the governemtn will change the way they feel about the imigrants?
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Feb 10, 2006
Opening up the doors of the UAE to naturalizatin shjould be done slowly and with great prudence.

It is my opinion that only Muslims ought to be allowed to be naturalized after some little time and only if they are fluent in Arabic or of the Arab race.

As for snobby locals, I have never gotten such a response from ANYONE. Those that act like a$$holes towards non-Arab expats act nice to me because I am an Arab and there is a certain amount of understanding to a degree - not that it justifies speaking to a foreigner in that way... I speak to strangers with the upmost of respect.

Just say in a nice way in Arabic.

"Ya akhi, 3mol ma3rouf, iza feek itkamil 7adissak ba3d al film, bkoun mamnounak"... Means, Brother, please, if you can please continue your conversation after the movie I would be most appreciative (something like that)... Somehow it comes out stronger in English and friendler in Arabic... hmmm... Dunno why... :?
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Feb 11, 2006
Thanks Liban, one to keep in mind.
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Liban said, "It is my opinion that only Muslims ought to be allowed to be naturalized after some little time and only if they are fluent in Arabic or of the Arab race."

So what about the second and third generation Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Philipinos who live and work here? The UAE is the only country they have called home.

If Canada only accepted people with French and UK background, who spoke French or English, and were Roman Catholic or Protestant Christians - you wouldn't have gotten Canadian citizenship Liban. (When will you renounce your Canadian citizenship by the way?)

Other countries are supposed to be accomodating to people of other backgrounds and religions, yet the UAE is supposed to be only Arabs and only Muslims?

This doesn't sound logical and fair to me!
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