Forced mariage stoped by Australian court

shafique

Let me repeat what I wrote - it is the Islamphobic bloggers who have the perverse notion/interpretation of the verse about divorce.

God's commandments are clear - no s.ex outside marriage, no forced marriages and no paedophillia. You can choose to believe the evidence presented or choose to believe Islamophobic bloggers.

I see that above I offered herve the last word to herve.. and asked him to address the evidence presented. He chose not to address the evidence.

I extend this offer to you - address the evidence presented. If you just deny that the Quranic, hadith and scientific evidence has been presented that refute the Islamophobic blogger theory, then I really can't help you.

Your choice - address the evidence or just repeat your denials.

Cheers,

Shafique

event_horizon

You are repeating yourself quite well.

You've managed to repeatedly avoid posting the verse from the Koran that prohibits pedophilia.

Does it exist? You say so, but run away and refuse numerous requests to provide any such verse.

Perhaps it's as real as your religion?

Btw, how are the commentaries I've posted in this thread "misinterpreting" the verse?

Do you still claim the verse is only about menaupasal women?

Nucleus

So are the Muslim commentators "misinterpreting" this verse?

Yes, whoever interpreted that way. Whats written in the verse is plain to see.

Islam doesn't have clergy for this reason.

event_horizon

So it's not the "Islamophobes" who say underage marriage is allowed in Islam.

It's actually Muslim scholars/theologians over the centuries who have said this.

We disagree whether they "misinterpreted" this verse.

Btw, do you know which verse prohibits pedophilia in the Koran?

Nucleus

Btw, do you know which verse prohibits pedophilia in the Koran?

The verse has been given couple of times that mentions there is a marriageable age.

Is there a verse in Bible that prohibts pedophilia?

event_horizon

Indeed, and that verse has been discussed several times.

Namely, "marriageable" age isn't defined.

"Marriageable" age must mean prepubescent because Muhammad married a prepubescent child and the Koran gives divorce proceedings for prepubescent wives.

shafique

Is there a verse in Bible that prohibts pedophilia?

I look forward to the answer to this one. (I'll leave you to enlighten eh as to what marriageable age means - you may want to refer him to the video again)

Cheers,

Shafique

event_horizon

Great, I'll await where the Koran further explains "marriageable" age and why we should ignore Muhammad marrying a six year old or the Koran giving divorce proceedings for prepubescent girls.

Nucleus

Indeed, and that verse has been discussed several times.

Namely, "marriageable" age isn't defined.

"Marriageable" age must mean prepubescent because Muhammad married a prepubescent child and the Koran gives divorce proceedings for prepubescent wives.

Marriageable age has been different in different times. But there is marriageable, and Islamic scholars in the past have defined it when a person reaches puberty.

As for the age of Aisha, hadiths are have weak source of transmission. Here is a detailed discussion on the issue http://forums.understanding-islam.com/showthread.php?11021-The-prophet-(PBUH)-and-his-marriage-to-Aisha

shafique

And whilst you're waiting eh - care to answer Nucleus' question on a Biblical verse prohibiting paedophillia?

Cheers,

Shafique

event_horizon

Any passage that prohibits underage marriage or pedophilia?

The Koran *does* allow underage marriage and consumation of the marriage based on mainstream interpretations of two of its passages. So, if any one can find that passage in the Koran that prohibits pedophilia, then they'll just have to contend with the verses which allow underage marriage and pedophilia.

Thankfully or unfortunately, however, it appears there doesn't seem to be any contradiction in this case.

Anyways, the Koran is a complete book. I shouldn't have to go outside the Koran to interpret its verses. Otherwise calling it a complete book would have an empty meaning only used by spokesmen for Islam who have no desire for truthful conversation. And we all know that these spokepersons who deliberately misinterpret and invent verses in the Koran don't post on this forum.

And whilst you're waiting eh - care to answer Nucleus' question on a Biblical verse prohibiting paedophillia? Cheers, Shafique

Sure, right after you provide the verse in the Koran that prohibits pedophilia and start addressing the backlog of questions in this thread you keep avoiding.

shafique

Nucleus - good luck. Whilst eh has been provided Quranic, Hadith and scientific references - I predict he won't provide one Biblical verse. I may be proved wrong.. but let's see.

Cheers,

Shafique

event_horizon

So where does the Koran prohibit pedophilia and underage marriage?

Did the Muslim commentators I've posted on this thread "misinterpret" this verse?

shafique

Nucleus - see, he won't provide a Biblical verse that prohibits paedophillia, but will continue his denials. 😉

Cheers,

Shafique

herve

The quran condones pedophilia and child rape through the glorification of muhammad, who is a proven pedophile and child molester of his own admission. I dont remember reading such admission in the Bible.

event_horizon

Are we going to find a passage from the Koran that contradicts the ones which allow for pedophilia and underage marriage?

What about those Muslim scholars, are they "misinterpreting" the Koran?

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