kanelli wrote:If the issue is about what a woman is wearing, why is it that non-Muslim women who dress conservatively with long sleeves and long pants - loose fitting even - can still be harassed by Muslim men? If a covered woman is a mark of a "good" non-sleazy woman, why do non-Muslim women who cover appropriately still get treated like sluts?
No, the issue/question was why
women choose to wear revealing clothes.
We can discuss how Muslim or Non-Muslim men react to women and whether that is right or wrong.
kanelli wrote:One can assume that someone who dresses slutty is in fact a fairy, but one might be wrong. One might also be wrong to assume that an abayaa wearing woman isn't capable of being a fairy, despite her form of dress in public.
I wasn't soliciting assumptions.
I think that women can agree that showing too much flesh will attract attention. The point is that while it is a woman's choice to wear such clothing, it is also a man's choice how he conducts himself around women. If a woman is dressed in a skimpy way and is nice to look at - give her discreet glances and enjoy. Her manner of dress should not be interpreted as an invitation to harass her or attack her. If she is dressed in a skimpy way and it looks terrible, you won't have any problems ignoring her - so the problem is solved.
I agree it's a woman's choice. Hence the question 'why?'
Note I did not talk about well-tailored vs ill-fitting. Abayas, Salwar Kameezes etc etc can all be very chic and fashionable and flattering - but they aren't 'skin tight' or showing flesh - which was the question posed.
kanelli wrote:A woman's body is for her own use and her own pleasure. She should be able to wear what she thinks suits her and makes her feel good. In that regard, I disagree with your assertion that uncovered women seem only to benefit men.
My observation was that it is the men who are the main
beneficiaries of women dressing s.e.x.i.l.y. - based on the responses in this thread.
Note I put 'feminism' in the title - implicitly I was hoping people would view it as an invitation to tell us men what's in it for women to dress s.e.x.i.l.y
I don't think its a question of muslim vs non-muslim either - there are many Muslim women who choose do dress provokatively and have a flirtatious attitude and there are very many non-Muslim and non-religious women who choose to dress 'classicly'; 'conservatively' or 'modestly' - I was exploring why some make the choice to dress 'like a vamp' and others choose not to.
Thus far it's - 'because they can'; 'they want the attraction'; 'it is appropriate for the occasion - such as when on the pull or in a nightclub'; 'to please boyfriend'; 'to boost self esteem'; 'to show off the body'.
The observation was that of these numerous reasons, the majority are benefiting men more than the woman.
Or am I missing something? (You know us men are less perceptive than women! It's a biological fact ! )