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Bethsmum · Dec 11, 2010

Does BS count as one language! Sorry DDS, we were making progress I know. Luv ya really :bounce:

desertdudeshj · Dec 11, 2010

Then it would be 5, but hey that atleast makes you biligual .

Bethsmum · Dec 11, 2010

Ahhh DDS, I give in, I'm off to bed, I'll give yer this one, sleep tight x

zubber · Dec 11, 2010

Sara you are emarati - what is your opinion on emarati girls being involved with indian/pakistani/bengali men ?

Bethsmum · Dec 11, 2010

zubber wrote:Sara you are emarati - what is your opinion on emarati girls being involved with indian/pakistani/bengali men ?

Stop trying to groom her Zubber!

Bora Bora · Dec 11, 2010

Sarah21 wrote:Dude you just sounded like the last english literature professor I talked to!

I'm not in class! come on cut me some slake will ya ;p lol

Sarah don't sweat the small stuff (or the small people!)

@DDS: I don't think you in a position to correct anyone's grammar. Or do you still claim that it's your keyboard causing all your grammatical errors?

Back on topic.................

zubber · Dec 11, 2010

Bethsmum wrote:Stop trying to groom her Zubber!

Beth's mother , its a legitimate question ma'am, honest

, I am aware of the fact that people from subcontinental areas are treated like dirt by these arrogant uae pr1ck's

Bethsmum · Dec 11, 2010

zubber wrote:
Bethsmum wrote:Stop trying to groom her Zubber!

Beth's mother , its a legitimate question ma'am, honest , I am aware of the fact that people from subcontinental areas are treated like dirt by these arrogant uae pr1ck's

Ahh she's only young Zubber, don't be mean to her.

zubber · Dec 11, 2010

I will endeavor to be more polite , ma'am

Bora Bora · Dec 11, 2010

zubber wrote:
Bethsmum wrote:Stop trying to groom her Zubber!

Beth's mother , its a legitimate question ma'am, honest , I am aware of the fact that people from subcontinental areas are treated like dirt by these arrogant uae pr1ck's

I don't think your reference to locals is going to get you far zubber. :lol:

I would say "no points scored". :lol:

I wouldn't limit the treatment to locals. It's pretty widespread here, some are very blatant about it, while others are subtle. I would also have to say that I have seen quite a few well-off people from the subcontinent treat their own people who work for them worse that locals - using the caste system.

Me, I'm a New York City girl, which means I'm color-blind. :wink:

zubber · Dec 11, 2010

Bora Bora wrote:I don't think your reference to locals is going to get you far zubber. I would say "no points scored". I wouldn't limit the treatment to locals. It's pretty widespread here, some are very blatant about it, while others are subtle. I would also have to say that I have seen quite a few well-off people from the subcontinent treat their own people who work for them worse that locals - using the caste system.

Me, I'm a New York City girl, which means I'm color-blind.

thanks for the head's up bora :mrgreen:

, You are indeed true about this caste system bs, it a religious thing actually for hindu's which I am not , Emirati women grow up in strange manner, somehow middle eastern women live in a fantasy land, and no nothing about reality. Anyway lets see her response.

Bora Bora · Dec 11, 2010

............and that's what makes us so loveable. :wink:

zubber · Dec 11, 2010

Bora Bora wrote:............and that's what makes up so loveable.

Pardon ? I didnt quite get what you meant here ? :?:

Sarah21 · Dec 11, 2010

zubber wrote:Sara you are emarati - what is your opinion on emarati girls being involved with indian/pakistani/bengali men ?

Dear Zubber,

if you take it from the Islamic way there is nothing wrong with marring who ever you want from any part of earth whatever color he is as long as he is a muslim as well.

however the arabin gulf society is really hard to have girls marrying none locals what so ever because the family and the girl would prefer someone who have the same traditions, background and finance as them. but it depends on the family if it allow the girl to chose for her self whomever she want.

but hear it from me local girls are 95% want to marry only locals and the other 5% marry none locals because they chose to themselves.

i know local girls who are marred to men who are Westerners, Egyptians, Syrian, Lebanese, and other from the gulf countries like Saudi, Qatari and Kuwaiti and all are wealthy or at least in the same financial level of the girl but i never heard of a local girl married or in a relationship with an indian or pakistani or Bengali men.

i have nothing against indian and such people my sister have some pakistani friends..
and my parents house driver is a Bengali and we treat him like family because he have been with us for almost 10 years now.

in the end for me as a muslim i have been thought since a child that there is no difference between any people from any level or any color in the world, we are all the same in God eyes.

-- Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:26 pm --

Bora Bora wrote:
Sarah21 wrote:Dude you just sounded like the last english literature professor I talked to!

I'm not in class! come on cut me some slake will ya ;p lol

Sarah don't sweat the small stuff (or the small people!)

@DDS: I don't think you in a position to correct anyone's grammar. Or do you still claim that it's your keyboard causing all your grammatical errors?

Back on topic.................

im sorry i didnt quite get what you mean ?

can you please explain what "don't *sweat* the small stuff or people" ?

P.S I just been to NY last Summer and im in LOVE !! your so lucky you're from there

Bora Bora · Dec 11, 2010

zubber wrote:
Bora Bora wrote:............and that's what makes us so loveable.

Pardon ? I didnt quite get what you meant here ?

Corrected my post zubber. If you refer to your previous post to me, I think you will get it now. :wink:

zubber · Dec 11, 2010

@sara - Right , I will take what you have said at face value, Thank bethsmum that I am not going to critique your response

@Bora - haha, well Im on the same page with you, i guess men do require an excursion from rationality every now and then

Bethsmum · Dec 11, 2010

Sara, you are, indeed, a very young person, or someone who has been sheltered. I don't think the following was what Zubber wanted to hear.

i have nothing against indian and such people my sister have some pakistani friends..
and my parents house driver is a Bengali and we treat him like family because he have been with us for almost 10 years now.

He has been a gentleman in not replying to your post. If I were you I would wise up a bit.

Sarah21 · Dec 11, 2010

Bethsmum wrote:Sara, you are, indeed, a very young person, or someone who has been sheltered. I don't think the following was what Zubber wanted to hear.

i have nothing against indian and such people my sister have some pakistani friends..
and my parents house driver is a Bengali and we treat him like family because he have been with us for almost 10 years now.

He has been a gentleman in not replying to your post. If I were you I would wise up a bit.

those tow last lines werent my replay to his qustion those were just an addition !!
i have answered his qustions tho!
he asked about indian and such marring locals and i did answer him!
didnt you read my whole post ??!
you people come asking me as a local and then you dont like my answers !
im sorry if my answeres arent what you want to hear ! but you ask because you want to know from a local perspective but when you hear the answer you dont accept it!
Whats wrong with you people !?
you say im young or ive been sheltered to talk like that, have it crossed your mind that maybe what im saying and my views are like this because this is indeed how i live!
that i live in a community that really do live like i say !?
before i left fo college i lived in a small town in RAK where everyone share my views and belifes!
now i live alone in the dorm still most of the girls who surround me have the same ideas. is it possible that all of us are wrong!?
you have different views and i respect that and you know stuff i dont and i respect that too
but why wont you respect my views ?
im telling you how things is supposed to be from islam teaching because this is how we live from where i came from..
im well aware that many locals dont do anything as what thir religion tell them.
put in mind he came and asked me what "I" think about indian pakstani bangali relationships with locals and i answered him according to what i saw in my life and from the people iv seen.
he didnt ask about what someone els thought he asked about my opinion! and if you dont want my opinion then dont ask for it !

-- Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:03 am --

zubber wrote:@sara - Right , I will take what you have said at face value, Thank bethsmum that I am not going to critique your response

)

could you tell me please if you didnt like my replay ?
because bethsmum says i didnt answer what you asked ?

you asked about my opinion and i told you my 'own' opinion and not the society opinion or anybody's els!
if you wanted the society opinion because its plane and simple and im sure you know it as well its a : NO its not ok for local girls to marry Indinas or Pakstani or Bngali ! as each come from different class of life!
and ive never heard that there is a lacal girl would want to marry anyone from there.

desertdudeshj · Dec 12, 2010

Well Sarah your replies make it very obvious to other people that you indeed have lived a sheltered life or somekind of self spun fantasy world or you truly are naive, as because from what they ( and me )hear from you and what they know from personal experience are two totaly different things. For example

i know local girls who are marred to men who are Westerners, Egyptians, Syrian, Lebanese, and other from the gulf countries like Saudi, Qatari and Kuwaiti and all are wealthy or at least in the same financial level of the girl but i never heard of a local girl married or in a relationship with an indian or pakistani or Bengali men.

I can give you examples contrary to those. Someone I know ( Pakistani ) is married to a local girl. He was working as an office boy in the bank she was working in when they first met and got married. Now they have a 5 year old daughter and your country refuses to give her citizenship a child born in this country to a mother who is a citizen of this country, but only because the father is a Pakistani. They live in a very run down house in Sharjah as she lost her job and can't get those prefered positions she could have gotten had she not been married to a Pakistani, Another ( Indian ) friend was banging the brains out of this local girl, she wanted to marry but he refused knowing how her family and the in laws would forever be a problem in his life.

For the rest of your REPLAY I will do what Zubs ( Oh and please don't tell what that means in arabic to Zubber :mrgreen:

) did and let it go for the moment

Sarah21 · Dec 12, 2010

desertdudeshj wrote:Well Sarah your replies make it very obvious to other people that you indeed have lived a sheltered life or somekind of self spun fantasy world or you truly are naive, as because from what they ( and me )hear from you and what they know from personal experience are two totaly different things. For example

i know local girls who are marred to men who are Westerners, Egyptians, Syrian, Lebanese, and other from the gulf countries like Saudi, Qatari and Kuwaiti and all are wealthy or at least in the same financial level of the girl but i never heard of a local girl married or in a relationship with an indian or pakistani or Bengali men.

I can give you examples contrary to those. Someone I know ( Pakistani ) is married to a local girl. He was working as an office boy in the bank she was working in when they first met and got married. Now they have a 5 year old daughter and your country refuses to give her citizenship a child born in this country to a mother who is a citizen of this country, but only because the father is a Pakistani. They live in a very run down house in Sharjah as she lost her job and can't get those prefered positions she could have gotten had she not been married to a Pakistani, Another ( Indian ) friend was banging the brains out of this local girl, she wanted to marry but he refused knowing how her family and the in laws would forever be a problem in his life.

For the rest of your REPLAY I will do what Zubs ( Oh and please don't tell what that means in arabic to Zubber ) did and let it go for the moment

ok i come from a class in the society that dont have any low stuff in it and im proud of that, because im living a life people would dream of. i have everything i want and can do whatever i want plus i get to be sheltered from the ugliness of the world ! whats better than that lol

and i dont know people who are marred to indians and such but you do ok thats good share your experience with zubber he seems to want to know about thos stuff..

symmetric · Dec 12, 2010

I guess I missed a lot :shock:

Guys, give Sarah a break, I totally understand where her views/thoughts come from as I'm an Emarati myself.

Yes, she has been sheltered and thats not a bad thing. She's full of innocence, and there is no harm in exploring stuff. Perhaps it's her time to learn more, and I'm sure we've all been there, and we're still learning more from others.

As for her written English skills, seriously I don't appreciate some comments with this regard.
English is not our first language, and its not our favorite one either.
I wish someday if I had the chance, I'll enforce Arabic language SPOKEN & WRITTEN on everyone living here.
And let me see the look on your face DDS when I laugh at your horrible accent and mistakes.

desertdudeshj · Dec 12, 2010

symmetric wrote:I wish someday if I had the chance, I'll enforce Arabic language SPOKEN & WRITTEN on everyone living here.

And then you will have no one other than you folk living here. Tyring hard to get there already and a few more bright sparks like you and it will happen sooner than later :wink:

Then each family can have its own personal tower to live in on SZR, yipee !

Bethsmum · Dec 12, 2010

I'm not going to let it go tho DDS. Sarah's attitude is arrogant and naive in the extreme.

I didn't say you didn't answer Zubber's post but that you said something he wouldn't want to hear. Do you not think it rather condescending to say that your Bengali driver is treated as one of the family as he has been with you for ten years? Or whatever you said. I find that rather disgust

ing if I'm honest.
Sarah, if you really believe all the local lads are saving themselves for you, you are in for a nasty shock I can tell you. I will tell you from personal experience that they will sh&g anything with a pulse. Sorry if it's not what you want to hear but it's the truth. Islam doesn't enter the stratosphere when S.E.X is on the agenda. Get with it Sarah.

-- Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:21 am --

Sarah21 wrote:
desertdudeshj wrote:Well Sarah your replies make it very obvious to other people that you indeed have lived a sheltered life or somekind of self spun fantasy world or you truly are naive, as because from what they ( and me )hear from you and what they know from personal experience are two totaly different things. For example

i know local girls who are marred to men who are Westerners, Egyptians, Syrian, Lebanese, and other from the gulf countries like Saudi, Qatari and Kuwaiti and all are wealthy or at least in the same financial level of the girl but i never heard of a local girl married or in a relationship with an indian or pakistani or Bengali men.

I can give you examples contrary to those. Someone I know ( Pakistani ) is married to a local girl. He was working as an office boy in the bank she was working in when they first met and got married. Now they have a 5 year old daughter and your country refuses to give her citizenship a child born in this country to a mother who is a citizen of this country, but only because the father is a Pakistani. They live in a very run down house in Sharjah as she lost her job and can't get those prefered positions she could have gotten had she not been married to a Pakistani, Another ( Indian ) friend was banging the brains out of this local girl, she wanted to marry but he refused knowing how her family and the in laws would forever be a problem in his life.

For the rest of your REPLAY I will do what Zubs ( Oh and please don't tell what that means in arabic to Zubber ) did and let it go for the moment

ok i come from a class in the society that dont have any low stuff in it and im proud of that, because im living a life people would dream of. i have everything i want and can do whatever i want plus i get to be sheltered from the ugliness of the world ! whats better than that lol

and i dont know people who are marred to indians and such but you do ok thats good share your experience with zubber he seems to want to know about thos stuff..

Sarah, you are living the life people would dream of? Do me a favour! You are a young girl sitting in a room posting on an internet forum. You should be out having some serious fun at your age, and I seriously doubt that you can do anything you want to. I feel so sorry for you, I really do.

symmetric · Dec 12, 2010

desertdudeshj wrote:
symmetric wrote:I wish someday if I had the chance, I'll enforce Arabic language SPOKEN & WRITTEN on everyone living here.

And then you will have no one other than you folk living here. Tyring hard to get there already and a few more bright sparks like you and it will happen sooner than later

Then each family can have its own personal tower to live in on SZR, yipee !

You surely fail to understand the concept of respecting the natives of a host country, regardless anything.

There are plenty of people living in non-English speaking countries who HAD to learn thier foregin language in order to make a living for a better life. If Arabic language was enforced here, and if that what it takes for you to make a living, you'll get urself enrolled in the nearest language institute, I'm sure.

If I were in your shoes, I'd think twice before making fun of the natives, and their skills of a second language, specially in our case.

Such cheap morals, and a low class character you got DDS.
You need classes in ethics before language.

Sarah21 · Dec 12, 2010

symmetric wrote:I guess I missed a lot
Guys, give Sarah a break, I totally understand where her views/thoughts come from as I'm an Emarati myself.

Yes, she has been sheltered and thats not a bad thing. She's full of innocence, and there is no harm in exploring stuff. Perhaps it's her time to learn more, and I'm sure we've all been there, and we're still learning more from others.

As for her written English skills, seriously I don't appreciate some comments with this regard.
English is not our first language, and its not our favorite one either.
I wish someday if I had the chance, I'll enforce Arabic language SPOKEN & WRITTEN on everyone living here.
And let me see the look on your face DDS when I laugh at your horrible accent and mistakes.

thanks alot man! im so grateful for you understatement.

i feel like those people just dont want to understand that what im saying is kind of true because im living that way!

i understand them having more experience and seeing more that me and accept their opinions but they just act like all im is wrong !?

and im with you in inforcing Arabic in this country ! if only we can do it!
look at the German for example they would never accept to be spoken to in thier country in anything but their languege even tho they know english !
we should really try and be like them..

desertdudeshj · Dec 12, 2010

symmetric wrote:You surely fail to understand the concept of respecting the natives of a host country, regardless anything.

Respect is a two way street, it is earned and not taken.

symmetric wrote:There are plenty of people living in non-English speaking countries who HAD to learn thier foregin language in order to make a living for a better life.

There many but not plenty,And those are conscious choices made by people fully knowing that is the requirement, and those places have much to offer. I don't see anyone other that big oil and a few other players making that kind of invesment i.e: simply hire Arabic enabled people to work here for them. The avg joe couldn't be bothered. They will just move to the next most favourable destination.

symmetric wrote:If Arabic language was enforced here, and if that what it takes for you to make a living, you'll get urself enrolled in the nearest language institute, I'm sure.

You forget the world is bigger than the middle east. And the GCC needs the expats more than the expats need the GCC.

symmetric wrote:If I were in your shoes, I'd think twice before making fun of the natives, and their skills of a second language, specially in our case.

If your referring to your country mate, no one made fun of her, just pointed out, not lashed out as you assume she could do better specialy being a UNI student. Would be to her own benefit for her future. And why is your case special ?

symmetric wrote:Such cheap morals, and a low class character you got DDS.

Having a reality check akin to cheap morals ? Thats new.

-- Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:42 am --

Sarah21 wrote:i feel like those people just dont want to understand that what im saying is kind of true because im living that way!

Nobody questioned the way you are living, we all believe you, it is you who does not want to believe what pthers have to say.

Sarah21 wrote:i understand them having more experience and seeing more that me and accept their opinions but they just act like all im is wrong !?

When you make exagerated claims, expect to be called on that.

Sarah21 wrote:look at the German for example they would never accept to be spoken to in thier country in anything but their languege even tho they know english !
we should really try and be like them..

Yes please do, the entire world would welcome that, including me, infact the west has been trying tooth and nail for this to happen. But just don't stick and stop with the language laws accept everything that is good.

Hell I'd be with you 100% even if you wanted to adopt the French Constitution. And thats saying a lot for me.

Sarah21 · Dec 12, 2010

I'm not going to let it go tho DDS. Sarah's attitude is arrogant and naive in the extreme.

I didn't say you didn't answer Zubber's post but that you said something he wouldn't want to hear. Do you not think it rather condescending to say that your Bengali driver is treated as one of the family as he has been with you for ten years? Or whatever you said. I find that rather ing if I'm honest.
Sarah, if you really believe all the local lads are saving themselves for you, you are in for a nasty shock I can tell you. I will tell you from personal experience that they will sh&g anything with a pulse. Sorry if it's not what you want to hear but it's the truth. Islam doesn't enter the stratosphere when S.E.X is on the agenda. Get with it Sarah.

first of all im sorry for trying to be polite!
i didnt try to offend anyone by saying my driver is like one of the family!

second of all could you PLEASE understand my point in virginity with local boys !!
all i said that islam says its not ok to have s.e.x before marriage however there are some local boys who do sleep around before marriage and im well aware of that just the other day my cousin was just telling me about some of his friends and thier girfriends!
and in college i know girls who have boyfriends as well!
i know that there are many out there who dont go with the religion teachings !

third

Sarah, you are living the life people would dream of? Do me a favour! You are a young girl sitting in a room posting on an internet forum. You should be out having some serious fun at your age, and I seriously doubt that you can do anything you want to. I feel so sorry for you, I really do.

how do you know im not !?
do you know me personally ? honey i just come from vecation in the U.S this summer all by my self!
i have my own car i go wherever i want with my friends whenever i want
you want me to have fun? girl me and my gang invented the fun. if only you would get to enter the gust list to one of our parties believe me i dont think u will remember your name when you come out!
i live by myself when im in college .
and i could chose to work in any city i want and even if i dont chose to work i would still can live anywher and buy whatever i want..
i have friends from different countries both genders who are really nice and makes me wonder why you people are not !?

or is it only because i dont chose to have s.e.x before marriage i dont have a good life ?
if you think with that perspective i would be really shocked that you would be that shallow !
because i really came to like you and your wisdom!

so tell me why do you feel sorry for me again? i feel sorry for you mam!
i tired being polite but you people keep offending me without any reason!

desertdudeshj · Dec 12, 2010

Well nobody is trying to offend you, your doing that perfectly all by yourself. Everybody knows Islams stance on s3x outside of marrige you don't have to preach it, but when you insisted ( at first ) that no unmarried local male or female has to use the old world fornicated. That was hard to swallow.

Then you gave in a little that only a few delved in the pleasuresof the flesh, now what we are saying and from good experience is that its the opposite that most have and few haven't, specialy when it comes to the men. Now your just having a real hard time believing that.

Maybe you could PM your friend sym and ask him if this is true or not. If you won't take out word for it. Maybe a of a countryman perhaps.

Sarah21 · Dec 12, 2010

desertdudeshj wrote:Well nobody is trying to offend you, your doing that perfectly all by yourself. Everybody knows Islams stance on s3x outside of marrige you don't have to preach it, but when you insisted ( at first ) that no unmarried local male or female has to use the old world fornicated. That was hard to swallow.

Then you gave in a little that only a few delved in the pleasuresof the flesh, now what we are saying and from good experience is that its the opposite that most have and few haven't, specialy when it comes to the men. Now your just having a real hard time believing that.

Maybe you could PM your friend sym and ask him if this is true or not. If you won't take out word for it. Maybe a of a countryman perhaps.

just the other day my cousin was just telling me about some of his friends and thier girfriends and them doing all kinda sh!t togatehr!
and in college i know girls who have boyfriends as well!
i know that there are many out there who dont go with the religion teachings !

Bethsmum · Dec 12, 2010

Well Sarah, I'm sorry but i was offended by you saying your Bengali driver was like one of the family. Zubber has been a gentleman and not responded to that comment, which was arrogant in the extreme. And BTW I am not your honey.

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