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BOUTEFLIKA wrote:Women don't understand that one should have all their love before marriage: the wife becomes sexless after the vows. Excepting, of course, television soap operas, trashy zines, and choc.

Maybe that way with the husband.

Chocoholic wrote:I think you'll find it's the typical double standard, where men are allowed to mess about and sleep with as many women as they wish, but women have to save themselves.

well if u read some of XXX ads emirati ladies arent saving till the last

sniper420 wrote:

Chocoholic wrote:I think you'll find it's the typical double standard, where men are allowed to mess about and sleep with as many women as they wish, but women have to save themselves.

well if u read some of XXX ads emirati ladies arent saving till the last

What ?!

Im a local muslim and i can tell you that both "Man&Woman" are supposed to be virgins until marriage according to Islam.
Men and women can not have s.e.x out side marriage its forbidden in Islam.
those who do have it before marriage are committing a very big sin that won't be acceptable.
you wont find it acceptable for any local muslim person to be marred from someone who is not a virgin.
of course like if someone were already marred and divorced then its ok he or she wont be a virgin because will they got marred before.
those who are not virgins before marriage are really not acceptable by Muslim local.

Sorry Sarah but you are living in fantasy land if you think the local men are saving themselves for you. You need to get real and realise that Muslim men are like any other men and gagging for it. Islam or not, they are human and when lust comes in the window, religion flies out.

First of thank you for replying to a year old post .....NOT and second of all you seem to be a bit detached from reality.

-- Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:06 am --

Hell must be freezing over ! I actually agree with BM only that she left out the lusty local ladies, they ain't saving themselves for no one either.

Hey DDS, We agree! Is this a first? By the way, you're up early! Hell isn't freezin over DDS, you're meltin!

ok first of all I AM A LOCAL !!
im living among locals i know everything thats going on !!
ok im not saying that all local and muslim dont sleep around before marriage but the majority DONT !!
and whoever posted this question was looking for an answer about the real locals here and since im one i do know theis stuff !!
again yes im aware of some who dont stay virgins but those are few !
hell would freez befor a true local muslim girl from a respected family would marry a none virgin local boy and vise versa.

P.S No thank you but even if a local boy is saving himself for me i would never even come close to him im not into locals.

Sarah21 wrote:ok first of all I AM A LOCAL !!
im living among locals i know everything thats going on !!
ok im not saying that all local and muslim dont sleep around before marriage but the majority DONT !!
and whoever posted this question was looking for an answer about the real locals here and since im one i do know theis stuff !!
again yes im aware of some who dont stay virgins but those are few !
hell would freez befor a true local muslim girl from a respected family would marry a none virgin local boy and vise versa.

P.S No thank you but even if a local boy is saving himself for me i would never even come close to him im not into locals.

You're narrowing the field a bit Sarah, I've met a few locals in my time and I can assure you, they are worse than Western men for wanting s.e.x. I feel kind of sorry for you really.

Hmm..typical local reaction

Well sorry Sarah I beg to differ, its not a few but a majority, infact you'd be hard pressed to find a local dude above the age of 18 or 20 who has "saved" himself. OK not so much with the ladies as they are kept under strict supervision but there is a sizeable percentage from the ladies aswell.

Also not to dash any hopes * or dreams about getting it on with a westerner )seems like you come from a conservative family ( even if not ) you seem to be a devout muslim. So legaly according to your countries law and Islam a muslim woman cannot marry a non muslim. Also highly discourged by your society and your govt of locals marrying foriegners.

So now that is another few odds you've stacked against yourself including that your western "boyfriend" will be celeibate and convert to Islam. Seems like you have a lot of hoops to jump through and literal leaps of faith to make.

I'm starting to think your not that old are you ?

with all do respect you know why because those locals men who are known more to interact with none local are well known for sleeping around even for us here. thats why you think thats all the local men are like that because those who you saw maybe. However the people who im specking of who are in my circle are all virgins until marriage and i dont think that you get the chance to really go into the deep real circle of locals like where i am form !??

Honey buns, I've been here longer than you have been alive. I have and to an extent still do move around in these "circles". So please no holier than thou speeches.

family and government dont make my desaions for me im free to chose whatever i want and chose who ever i want to marry..
you guys keep saying its the majority of the local who sleep around my question is have you dealt with all the locals in the uae? do you know guys from different families and cites who live in their local circle with no interaction with any outsider what so ever ?
again i did say that im well aware of those local who do sleep around allot there even are girls who do that !!
im just saying you guys cant judge unless you really come from the middle of the local people ?!
like for me i wont really be able to judge how a real community in Hustin Taxes is or Slaigo Irlend is now can i !!

Sarah21 wrote:with all do respect you know why because those locals men who are known more to interact with none local are well known for sleeping around even for us here. thats why you think thats all the local men are like that because those who you saw maybe. However the people who im specking of who are in my circle are all virgins until marriage and i dont think that you get the chance to really go into the deep real circle of locals like where i am form !??

Sarah, don't believe all men tell you.

I'll give you a handfull of people who are celibate, I know a very well know family, most of the siblings were very religious one is a well know qari and imam. So yes there are a few, but thats it a few. Not the majority.

Time to make an exit from the land of unicorns and easter bunnies to the real world.

-- Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:50 am --

Bethsmum wrote:

Sarah21 wrote:with all do respect you know why because those locals men who are known more to interact with none local are well known for sleeping around even for us here. thats why you think thats all the local men are like that because those who you saw maybe. However the people who im specking of who are in my circle are all virgins until marriage and i dont think that you get the chance to really go into the deep real circle of locals like where i am form !??

Sarah, don't believe all men tell you.

+ 1 on that, don't expect anyone from you "close circle" and tell you he or even she scored last night

Looks like we have our work cut out with grasshopper here. Real World dynamics 101

i dont believe what men tell me !! thats would be the lowest i sink if i ever just believe whatever i hear just because it came from a man !!
i have my own mind and i think there for i am !
im a university student for god sake i go around i do researches i read i came from this place and i lived in it my whole life i think i do have true say in the matter !

Sarah, sorry but how do you know these local guy frinds of yours are virgins? Oh let me guess, because they told you so. By your own admission you already said you don't believe what guys tell you.

The 'majority' of local guys are messing around before marriage, many are paying for it and they're also playing with each other!

I actually feel sorry for you, that you seem to live in this fantasy land and can't see what is actually going on, but that's common in circles like yours.

It would be extremely rare to find a guy that hasn't been s.e.xually active before marriage - and you say you're into Westerns? Then that would be a big fat ZERO then.

And there are women who are technically virgins when they are married... if you get my drift.

Same as the guys then?

And of course, girls can pop into the surgery in Harley Street and get a 'Humpty-Dumpty' job done just before the wedding.



Knight

Dubai Knight wrote:Same as the guys then?

And of course, girls can pop into the surgery in Harley Street and get a 'Humpty-Dumpty' job done just before the wedding.



Knight

Which is complete nonsense in the first place.

Dubai Knight wrote:Same as the guys then?

And of course, girls can pop into the surgery in Harley Street and get a 'Humpty-Dumpty' job done just before the wedding.



Knight

You can get that done on the NHS, DK. I read that in the Daily Mail

Dubai Knight wrote:Same as the guys then?

And of course, girls can pop into the surgery in Harley Street and get a 'Humpty-Dumpty' job done just before the wedding.



Knight

Exactly, those two ways

kanelli wrote:And there are women who are technically virgins when they are married... if you get my drift.

Errrr, we're not talking the tradesman's entrance are we?

Bethsmum wrote:

kanelli wrote:And there are women who are technically virgins when they are married... if you get my drift.

Errrr, we're not talking the tradesman's entrance are we?

ROFLMAO , Believe it or not I have heard stories about how middle eastern women stay "virgins" by giving unrestricted access to the "trademen's entrance"

Without going into any details, yup thats is also a one method practiced to preserve virginity.

desertdudeshj wrote:Without going into any details, yup thats is also a one method practiced to preserve virginity.

I don't think anyone needs details! I think we all know what is meant by it lol

But it has to be said, I don't get it! If you're going to let someone do that, then why not just have normal s.e.x - bizarre thinking at it's best or worst as the case may be.

^^ sadly from what i understand , they're are predators who take advantage of this false understanding by the womenfolk , and initiate them into depravity

You'll find that men are allowed to have intercourse outside of marriage in Islam. For example, although outdated, if a man has a concubine (slave girl), he is allowed to have intercourse with her. I'm not so sure if the same applies to a women.

brucebanner wrote:You'll find that men are allowed to have intercourse outside of marriage in Islam

Technically No, its 100% illegal and a punishable offense.

For example, although outdated, if a man has a concubine (slave girl),

As you have stated it is an outdated concept that held relevance for a certain period of time ,When taken in the most literal sense

he is allowed to have intercourse with her.

Not only that , The owner of the concubine has financial obligations towards the woman, including providing for her children and defending their lives. So they are not s3x slaves per say, This s3x slave idea is a modern distorted perception, For example , the Harems of the past , were not brothels, nor where orgies occurred, the harems were from where the future kings came

I'm not so sure if the same applies to a women.

The occurrence of polyandry in recorded history is significantly negligible, not practiced in muslims nor in the other monotheistic religions.

Technically, yes. I don't even know what you're trying to get at. Everything I said is technically correct, so let's leave it at that.

Technically No, its 100% illegal and a punishable offense.

Did you read what I wrote? What about the case of a slave? Strictly speaking he isn't married to her.

These are all well known facts, there is no point trying to argue against them.