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valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

alina_4u wrote:

valkyrie wrote:That's kind of dumb that a non muslim man can't marry a muslim woman.

Isn't that a kind of discrimination, like an african man can't marry a white woman even if they love each other?

no its not discrimination... its a religion and thats how it works....

And if he loves her, it shouldn't be a problem for him to convert

you love someone for the person, doesn't matter what colour or religion. You love someone because you love the way she/he is, why do you want to change him/her? if she/he changed then is not the someone you love anymore.

FeiPo wrote:

alina_4u wrote:

valkyrie wrote:That's kind of dumb that a non muslim man can't marry a muslim woman.

Isn't that a kind of discrimination, like an african man can't marry a white woman even if they love each other?

no its not discrimination... its a religion and thats how it works....

And if he loves her, it shouldn't be a problem for him to convert

you love someone for the person, doesn't matter what colour or religion. You love someone because you love the way she/he is, why do you want to change him/her? if she/he changed then is not the someone you love anymore.

I disagree here, you love them and all but what about the future?? The kids? Which religion are you going to teach them?? It is nice and rosy saying if you love someone it does not matter. Colour or race, nationality etc does not matter in my opinion but religion does matter big time. All your life you believed something and you want to teach your child what you believe but if the dad does not believe the same, the children will be in a mess.

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

can i help?

Oh! and can we make a stop at someone elses place to...i believe he said he was living in qatar or kuwait and his dad was a sheikh...shouldnt be too hard....

sara_uk wrote:

FeiPo wrote:

alina_4u wrote:

valkyrie wrote:That's kind of dumb that a non muslim man can't marry a muslim woman.

Isn't that a kind of discrimination, like an african man can't marry a white woman even if they love each other?

no its not discrimination... its a religion and thats how it works....

And if he loves her, it shouldn't be a problem for him to convert

you love someone for the person, doesn't matter what colour or religion. You love someone because you love the way she/he is, why do you want to change him/her? if she/he changed then is not the someone you love anymore.

I disagree here, you love them and all but what about the future?? The kids? Which religion are you going to teach them?? It is nice and rosy saying if you love someone it does not matter. Colour or race, nationality etc does not matter in my opinion but religion does matter big time. All your life you believed something and you want to teach your child what you believe but if the dad does not believe the same, the children will be in a mess.

so true sara.....somethines i see this as main reason for breaking up

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

My point proven

bushra21 wrote:

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

can i help?

Oh! and can we make a stop at someone elses place to...i believe he said he was living in qatar or kuwait and his dad was a sheikh...shouldnt be too hard....

xoxoxoxox Bushra21

Can you look to see if I left my watch on your dresser?

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Valkyrie

valkyrie wrote:

bushra21 wrote:

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

can i help?

Oh! and can we make a stop at someone elses place to...i believe he said he was living in qatar or kuwait and his dad was a sheikh...shouldnt be too hard....

xoxoxoxox Bushra21

Can you look to see if I left my watch on your dresser?

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Valkyrie

yeah he had to come all the way from illinois to do that

sniper420 wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

bushra21 wrote:

Bleakus wrote:

valkyrie wrote:

kanelli wrote:valkyrie, you are a real piece of work. You are an extremist of sorts - just can't figure out what kind to classify you as

Are you going to bomb my neighborhood because you disagree with me

O O can i do it? ;)

can i help?

Oh! and can we make a stop at someone elses place to...i believe he said he was living in qatar or kuwait and his dad was a sheikh...shouldnt be too hard....

xoxoxoxox Bushra21

Can you look to see if I left my watch on your dresser?

xoxoxoxoxoxo

Valkyrie

yeah he had to come all the way from illinois to do that

that just proves how good and worth it i am sniper

lol

internet=serious business

"Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother."

So is Islam a better religion than the others?

I don't believe that to be the case. Children will follow the religion of their mother just as much as their father. Indeed, children do have a choice of their own. Despite the indoctrination by my parents I was able to steer clear of their chri$tianity.

valkyrie wrote:"Also, because the children are more likely to follow the religion of the father rather than the mother."

So is Islam a better religion than the others?

I don't believe that to be the case. Children will follow the religion of their mother just as much as their father. Indeed, children do have a choice of their own. Despite the indoctrination by my parents I was able to steer clear of their chri$tianity.

isnt that in judism?

i agree with val, only on his last point,
my father has no religion, my mother is catholic,
i was baptised as a catholic and followed my mothers religion.

i still dont see why non-muslum men cannot marry muslim women,
if a man is a strong follower of christianity, then his basic beleifs are the same as a muslum women.. correct?

it is then the parents choice what religion the children will be as we children are born they cannot make that sort of decision.. correct?

so if a non-muslum man married a muslum woman, and agreed to bring the child up as Islam, then wouldnt it be alright?

BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO FOLLOW THE FATHERS RELIGION.....


god you people are dense

bushra21 wrote:BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO FOLLOW THE FATHERS RELIGION.....


god you people are dense

ha ha bushra 3asel

sara_uk wrote:

bushra21 wrote:BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO FOLLOW THE FATHERS RELIGION.....


god you people are dense

ha ha bushra 3asel

go bushra go bushra

bushra21 wrote:BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO FOLLOW THE FATHERS RELIGION.....


god you people are dense

Based on what? I still don't understand your double standards.

are you an atheist? if so,

i hope that when you die (and you will die), and when you come back as a tree on this earth, and mid breeze, some fat hairy lumberjack comes and chops you down, ties you up, drags you through the mud, throws you into his truck, shoves you through the wood chipper, pounds you into paper, and prints the quran, bible, torah...whatever religious book there is ....on your pages...... (taken from Dane Cook...oh how i wish i could take credit for that one, but alas, i cannot)


that is of course if you are an atheist.

whats wrong with athiesm?

whats wrong with islam?

bushra21 wrote:whats wrong with islam?

You denigrated athiesm

dont you do the same.....

perhaps not as blunty as i just did, but i believe you do....

oh, and



cry me a river

Religion in general, or just Islam?

If you believe that I denigrate your religion then show me where

it isn't my religion; i dont own it.


also, why should I? so you can argue somemore on how im wrong and you 'just dont see it'?




if you cant respect others, dont expect to be respected. respect is something earned, something, which for me, you havent.

bushra21 wrote:it isn't my religion; i dont own it.


also, why should I? so you can argue somemore on how im wrong and you 'just dont see it'?




if you cant respect others, dont expect to be respected. respect is something earned, something, which for me, you havent.

I haven't disrespected you or your religion, you *have* shown a preference for Islam over other religions.

"also, why should I?"

You made the accusation

"if you cant respect others"

I didn't disrespect you, you came on to this conversation frothing at the mouth.

bushra21 wrote:are you an atheist? if so,

i hope that when you die (and you will die), and when you come back as a tree on this earth, and mid breeze, some fat hairy lumberjack comes and chops you down, ties you up, drags you through the mud, throws you into his truck, shoves you through the wood chipper, pounds you into paper, and prints the quran, bible, torah...whatever religious book there is ....on your pages...... (taken from Dane Cook...oh how i wish i could take credit for that one, but alas, i cannot)


that is of course if you are an atheist.

that quite an imagination

guys just drop it, it like a freakin de-ja-vu

like i said...some people are dense

STOP DREAMING AND GET THE HELL OUT OF HER

bushra21 wrote:BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO FOLLOW THE FATHERS RELIGION.....
god you people are dense

i agree with Bushra.

both Islam AND Christianity encourage the women to marry men from the same faith. Men are able to marry women of the other.
Far as i understand, it is due to the passing down of religion to the children from the father.

In Judaism, the religion is passed down via the mother, not father. So if the father is Jewish and mother not, Child will not be Jewish by birth.

aslo as i understand a Jewish woman would still have to convert to Islam or Christianity to be sure the Child was a Muslim or Christian respectively should they marry. Same applies to the non monotheistic religions.


Of course, if you dont care, you will marry regardless.
If you are an atheist you may find it difficult to understand, also for many Europeans/USA/Canadians religion is more of a choice than a way of life so typically they find it bizarre.

I just feel it is wrong to quizz the Muslims alone regarding this sensitive topic.