Britons Link Islam With Extremism

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Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
The people of Britain are beginning to wake up.

I also see in the report that Muslims have not missed another PR campaign to win over a few more sheep.

Good for them, too.

Most people in the UK associate Islam with extremism and the repression of women, a survey has suggested.

The online YouGov poll found 58% of those questioned linked Islam with extremism while 69% believed it encouraged the repression of women.

The survey of 2,152 adults was commissioned by the Exploring Islam Foundation.

The organisation has launched a poster campaign on London transport to combat negative perceptions of Muslims.

BBC home editor Mark Easton says the survey, conducted last month, paints a negative picture of British attitudes to Islam.

Asked if Muslims had a positive impact on British society, the YouGov poll found four out of 10 disagreed with the statement.

Half linked Islam with terrorism, just 13% thought it was based on peace and 6% associated it with justice.

Some 60% admitted they did not know much about the religion, but a third said they would like to know more.

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The Exploring Islam Foundation hopes to challenge the negative views of the religion with its Inspired By Muhammad project.

It will feature posters of Muslim professionals, displayed in central London locations such as bus stops and tube stations, alongside messages emphasising the ways in which Muslims balance religious tradition with contemporary human rights and social responsibility.

Remona Aly, campaigns director for the foundation, said many Muslims were concerned about the way their faith was perceived by the public.

"We want to foster a greater understanding of what British Muslims are about and our contribution to British society. We are proud of being British and being Muslim," she said.

A spokesman for the Quilliam Foundation , the counter-extremism think tank, welcomed the campaign, describing it as a "timely step to help improve relations and foster deeper understanding between British citizens".

"This campaign is important because it can help non-Muslims to better understand the faith that inspires and guides their Muslim friends, neighbours and colleagues.

"This initiative also helps British Muslims reclaim the Prophet Muhammad as a time-honoured guide for peace, compassion and social justice from those who seek to twist his teachingsp."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/10251827.stm

The Prophet Muhammad? Whose prophet is that again?

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Re: Britons Link Islam With Extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
Thanks for highlighting that efforts are indeed being made to "reclaim the Prophet Muhammad as a time-honoured guide for peace, compassion and social justice from those who seek to twist his teachings".

Some 60% admitted they did not know much about the religion, but a third said they would like to know more.




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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
Yeah, I noticed that Muslims have now seized this opportunity to 'correct' or 'properly' inform the Brits on the 'true' teachings of Islam.

I also thought those signs from the prophet Muhammad campaign were pretty catchy.

I'm sure a few members could offer suggestions on new signs:

"I believe in polygamy"
"So did Muhammad"
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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
"I believe in polygamy"
"So did Muhammad"

No reasons why they shouldn't if said in right time under right circumstances (remember islam's message is far all times-not for specific period) But since you're such an islam enthusiast you shall join in to welcome..don't you think?
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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
Ok, so you agree that Polygamy should be practiced in any and every circumstance - that it should at least always be legal ?

The issue of Muhammad taking nine or ten wives at the same time can be discussed on a separate thread, as well as Ali taking four wives and over a dozen concubines.
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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
Ok, so you agree that Polygamy should be practiced in any and every circumstance - that it should at least always be legal ?

:evil: read what I wrote again..

The issue of Muhammad taking nine or ten wives at the same time can be discussed on a separate thread, as well as Ali taking four wives and over a dozen concubines.

:evil: Don't bother they were discussed many times before with your initiative..
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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
I did read what you wrote. I was confused by what you meant when you said that certain actions were for a certain time and place but continued by saying that the Koran is universal; for all times and places.

So, is the Koranic passage allowing polygamy universal, but Muhammad's disregard for what Allah is interpreted to have said (Hans Kung convincingly argues that the Koran does not prohibit marrying more than four women - just that this rule was a later man made addition to Islamic law) what you meant by a certain time and place when Muhammad married more than four women at a time ?
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Re: Britons Link Islam With Extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
It's funny that you're quoting the results of survey on opinions of Islam, when the majority admit they know little about the religion. As I said, great that you've picked up a positive story about Muslims taking action to counteract the wrong orientalist and quaint views that you believe are fact.

Hey eh - is this a new argument (about polygamy) from your Bible camp that you want to try out on Berrin?

Are the Christians in your country that practice polygamy also 'extremists' or are they wrong to quote the Bible in defence of their polygamy?

BTW - in the thread about your fellow Christians brethren forcing a rape victim to apologise for falling pregnant - I've asked you to confirm whether or not you're from that state or from the Bible Belt. I'm still guessing you might be from Texas - but benjw argues you're too articulate for a Texan.

(We won't mention the plethora of questions still hanging in the religion forum... ;) )

(In case you're counting - there are two questions in this post that aren't rhetorical - 1. Christian polygamists and the Bible, 2. Are you from Texas)

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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
No, Christians and Jews both reject polygamy.

This has been a universal theme in Christianity for the past two thousand years. Jews in some parts of the Islamic world continued to practice bigamy until they immigrated to Israel where polygamy is prohibited.
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Re: Britons Link Islam With Extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
But, are you from Texas?


I think you can visit these guys and duke it out with them why they use the Bible to justify Polygamy in Christianity...:

http://www.christianpolygamy.com/

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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
..And these guys too

Christian Polygamy is based solely upon the Old and New Testament Scriptures. It is a belief held mostly by evangelical, conservative Christians, who operate by the presupposition that the Scriptures, the Word of God, as written in the languages in which they were originally written, is the sole basis for doctrinal belief.

http://www.christianpolygamy.info/christian-polygamy/
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Re: Britons Link Islam With Extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
You're not from Idaho are you, perchance:

Idaho Evangelical Christian polygamists use Internet to meet potential spouses

Albert Morrison is a religious man. He prays, he reads the Bible and says he has a deep connection with Jesus. It is this devotion that helps explain why Albert and his wife, Sarah, are searching for a second wife.
"David, Abraham, Jacob, Solomon — they all had multiple wives," he said, referring to four of the Bible's most revered prophets. "The Bible never banned polygamy, it glorified it."

The Morrisons are part of a group of Evangelical Christian polygamists who believe that polygamy, the practice of taking more than one wife, is spiritually and even economically more favorable than monogamy.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,51 ... 17,00.html
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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 08, 2010
Eh if you leave hypocrisy behind you than I might have some joy in talking to you but you deliberatly turn blind eye to the facts that are presented to you..I don't know what you gain from all this attitude..
So I am not going to bother and re wind..

Why do you think Allah should ban polygamy, when you don't know when you may find yourself facing difficult or disasterous times in which you're obliged to make more than one wifed marriages.i.e wars..too many men dies..
Why do you interpret everthing in masculine way and think that those verses have means to satisfy men pleasure only? Do you think God's world and his perspectives are as menial as yours?

Now read these and never ask the same questions again, otherwise I'll announce you as obsessive maniac of the forums alrite!.. :x :)
An intorduction to polygamy in islam
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/325/
Reasons Why Islam Permits Polygamy
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/328/
Who practices polygamy?
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/339/viewall/
Polygamy in the World and the West
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/327/
Polygamy in Judaism and Christianity
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/326/
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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 09, 2010
Berrin, I read your articles but I don't see your point.

If the Koran is a book for all time, then why do you mention wars, etc. to justify polygamy?

The Koran does not say that if there is a shortage of men then polygamy can be legal.

The Koran says that polygamy is allowed. Nothing more, nothing less.

So, do you believe that polygamy is to be legal for all times or under certain exceptions ?

(I also thought the author's claim that men in the West cohabit with prostitutes as being quite funny !)

Many times in the American society when relations are strained, the husband simply deserts his wife. He may then cohabit with a prostitute or with another immoral woman without going through the legalizing ritual of marriage. Women sometimes do the complementary act, deserting their husbands and then living with a new partner in an immoral relationship. More common, however, is the practice of ‘living together’ immorally before marriage, possibly trying out several partners before settling on someone to marry.


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Re: Britons link Islam with extremism Posted Jun 09, 2010
If the Koran is a book for all time, then why do you mention wars, etc. to justify polygamy?

I didn't know you were a god of your own who could assess divine decree and that you could see what happens thousands of years before and thousands of years after as generations come and pass...
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/40/

The Koran does not say that if there is a shortage of men then polygamy can be legal.
The Koran says that polygamy is allowed. Nothing more, nothing less.
So, do you believe that polygamy is to be legal for all times or under certain exceptions ?

Do you know what belief in scriptures mean? http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/36/
God doesn't also say that only after a destruction of plague polygamy can be allowed either.
God doesn't also say that if you marry a sterile woman you should divorce her first and then make the second marriage either. He's on the side of best decisions made under his guidance that is just/happy for anyone/everyone involved.
Therefore he condones polygamy but does not encourage it and forbids negligence/abuse of his verse..

I also thought the author's claim that men in the West cohabit with prostitutes as being quite funny!

It's not funny it's true you have no idea what the off scale rich do in the west..
There are so many of them subscribe themselves prostitute supplying private agencies, if not for every night for every weekend at least. I do know escort girs a call away ready at any time you wish coming from all around the world.. now don't get me started cause I know what I am gonna call you...
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Re: Britons Link Islam With Extremism Posted Jun 09, 2010
Are you guys Insane ? Why do you even bother with this troll. Honestly shaf if you would have ignored this fool he would have left long time back.
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Re: Britons Link Islam With Extremism Posted Jun 09, 2010
^You have a good point dd!

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