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Fasting? Who's doing it. Posted Sep 06, 2007
Ok who's fasting for Ramadan?

In solidarity I did it last Ramadan but only for 2 weeks as I went to the land of the infidels for the last 2 weeks. I plan on doing it again - but will only be in Dubai for the last 2 weeks.

I thought I was going to be starving but thirst was the killer!

Ramadan Kareem.





p.s. I know many muslims who do not fast (and they are still ok).

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Posted Sep 06, 2007
i am, i do it anyways every year

good for the soul :D
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I fast.
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I eat fast.
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Posted Sep 06, 2007
Bleakus wrote:i am, i do it anyways every year

good for the soul :D


I fast and agree with you there :)
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good for the soul :D


why it have nothing to do wid shoes.
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^^huh?
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i'm not fasting.. xxx :(
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Posted Sep 06, 2007
Goo for the soul, bad for the body I'm afraid.
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Posted Sep 06, 2007
Chocoholic wrote:Goo for the soul, bad for the body I'm afraid.


gives your stomach a break sometime which is good
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Posted Sep 06, 2007
Regarding fasting, here's a question:

For those of you who do actually fast, do you find that you lose weight during Ramadan, or put more on?

Just that 'fasters' always seem to be divided into two camps; those who look forward to Ramadan and can't wait to cut down on their food, and those who dread the season because they know what just what iftar - every night - in Dubai can mean!
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real_foxy wrote:i'm not fasting.. xxx :(


Im sure someone can give you the times if you wanna fast... :wink:
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Posted Sep 06, 2007
i too have a question for the muslims on the forum.

when you fast, does that mean you eat nothing, not a single thing for the entire time?

because religion aside, that aint normal!
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Posted Sep 06, 2007
dave101 wrote:i too have a question for the muslims on the forum.

when you fast, does that mean you eat nothing, not a single thing for the entire time?

because religion aside, that aint normal!


You eat nothing the whole time until its sunset.
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dave101 wrote:i too have a question for the muslims on the forum.

when you fast, does that mean you eat nothing, not a single thing for the entire time?

because religion aside, that aint normal!


You eat nothing the whole time until its sunset.


To clarify for those who are unsure you cannot Eat, Drink or Smoke anything from Sunrise to Sunset.
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Chocoholic wrote:Goo for the soul, bad for the body I'm afraid.


Choco the way Ramadan is done in our consumerist society you are right its bad for the body when you fast the whole day and then at 7pm eat 3 meals worth of food ... but the right way to be done is to have a light meal at sunset (soup, dates, water .. etc) and then have another meal a few hours later .. and then eat again before sun rise .. this way you still get 3 meals a day and its not bad for your body.
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Posted Sep 06, 2007
oh and i am fasting except for the part of the month i will be in infidel land :)
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Posted Sep 07, 2007
There is the difference between Fasting and hunger strike. Fasting teaches us how to be the perfect person in the all matter of daily activities. It is training period for one month and we are expected to follow the tradition in following 11 months.

If we do not bring positive changes in life then it is not FAST but Hunger strike.

some people cancel their dates in the month of Ramdan and then start their days again at the end of Ramdan , thats not the Fasting :lol:

Well i hardly FAST mostly its Hunger strike :oops:
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Posted Sep 07, 2007
Chocoholic wrote:Goo for the soul, bad for the body I'm afraid.


u dont have kids to feed so take it easy :P
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Re: Fasting? Who's doing it. Posted Sep 07, 2007
[quote="Concord"]Ok who's fasting for Ramadan?

In solidarity I did it last Ramadan but only for 2 weeks as I went to the land of the infidels for the last 2 weeks. I plan on doing it again - but will only be in Dubai for the last 2 weeks.

I thought I was going to be starving but thirst was the killer!

Ramadan Kareem.


[quote]

Did your wife make you the food at 4 a.m in the morning :lol:
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Galactico wrote:
dave101 wrote:i too have a question for the muslims on the forum.

when you fast, does that mean you eat nothing, not a single thing for the entire time?

because religion aside, that aint normal!


You eat nothing the whole time until its sunset.


To clarify for those who are unsure you cannot Eat, Drink or Smoke anything from Sunrise to Sunset.


or screw.
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dave101 wrote:i too have a question for the muslims on the forum.

when you fast, does that mean you eat nothing, not a single thing for the entire time?

because religion aside, that aint normal!


Sweeety

There is logic behind it :

1 = it makes you realize about the poor people who do not have enough to eat .

2= It teaches you the patience. For example even though food is infornt of you but u cant eat because u know that it is not allowed. So when u r going to cheat someone or commit evil , this sorta Patience helps u .

In short , it develops Patience inside u. :P
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Posted Sep 07, 2007
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Chocoholic wrote:Goo for the soul, bad for the body I'm afraid.


Choco the way Ramadan is done in our consumerist society you are right its bad for the body when you fast the whole day and then at 7pm eat 3 meals worth of food ... but the right way to be done is to have a light meal at sunset (soup, dates, water .. etc) and then have another meal a few hours later .. and then eat again before sun rise .. this way you still get 3 meals a day and its not bad for your body.


if u r trying to convert her y dont u just marry her?
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Posted Sep 08, 2007
I am a muslim n I fast

some ppl say "oh how is possible not to eat ? oh it is very hard! oh it is bad for your health" ... not at all , u get used 2 it n it helps u 2 CONTROL urself as Ramadan is not only about not eating..
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Posted Sep 08, 2007
So long as you give your body a routine to stick by.

Humans are natural grazers and 'health' speaking we should eat little and often. Tyhe best way to main a healthy weight is actualy to eat 5 small meals a day, it keeps your metabolism going.

By stopping eating, your body will actually store fat and slow down the metabolic rate, as it never knows when it's going to be fed next.
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HP wrote: 2= It teaches you the patience. For example even though food is infornt of you but u cant eat because u know that it is not allowed. So when u r going to cheat someone or commit evil , this sorta Patience helps u .

In short , it develops Patience inside u. :P



That might be true outside of Dubai/UAE but since they prohibit the serving of food then there is less "temptation" and it is forced patience. Now, if you can fast in say Paris, for example, then you are patient.

In Dubai it is easy: Overeat after iftar (around 7 Pm), huge meal again at 4:00 am, back to bed for a few hours - fast until 2:pm go to bed at 3 pm, wake up at 7 pm, eat again - repeat for 30 days!
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Posted Sep 09, 2007
Thats like a short cut mode

its not gonna be easy when eventually the month of ramadan falls in the august
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Posted Sep 09, 2007
Bleakus wrote:Thats like a short cut mode

its not gonna be easy when eventually the month of ramadan falls in the august


just move to australia and NZ for one month = winter = short days = easy :P

ian give you cheap rent.
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Posted Sep 09, 2007
I don`t fast....I thought about it one sec, but then I realized that I would die without food and water the whole day.

By the way.....you will become fat at this time.

The whole day no food......and at night food party....Hello big bu**
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Tropic23 wrote:I don`t fast....I thought about it one sec, but then I realized that I would die without food and water the whole day.

By the way.....you will become fat at this time.

The whole day no food......and at night food party....Hello big bu**


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Posted Sep 10, 2007
well you dont have to "Give it" at night
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It's actually a well-known fact [amongst the dieticians and occupational health peeps] that in general people partaking of the ramadan fasting tend to put ON weight. It's all about metabolism [I think Choco explained it better than me].

Again. I love the idea that a religious festival can be used as a reminder to pureify and cleanse. Such a good strengthener for character.

However, just go a sit near Maccy D's or any of the other cr@p fast food joints and watch the orders fly in [and get scoffed just around teh corner "out-of-sight" :roll: :D ]

If yer gonna do it - DO IT !

[and yup, b4 I get flammed, I will be fasting in ramadan and I also give up booze during Jan too !]
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Posted Sep 10, 2007
yeah i do the fasting thing year round not just during ramadan.
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There is ofcourse a lot of research done on the benefits of fasting, and with the internet, this information is easily available for all.

Fasting not only has tremendous physical, mental benefits but ofcourse spiritual as well :)

I just thought that i would post a few things that i found, whilst surfing. I apologize about the length of this post, however, even these various articles don't completely do justice about all the benefits of fasting.

From religious ground, fasting is not only islamic practice. Its also a essential tradition of Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish and Christian belief.

A beautiful quote on fasting by a Saint, "Let us love fasting exceedingly, for fasting cures diseases, casts out demons, drives away evil thoughts, renders the mind brighter, the heart pure, the body sanctified, and presents man to the throne of God."
-- St. Athanasios the Great


Fasting is prescribed in almost all religions. The Jews and Christians also fast. Jewish law order a yearly fast on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. Many Orthodox Jews require the bride and groom to fast on the day before their wedding. Many Christians fast during Lent, the period of 40 days that Jesus (as) spent fasting in the wilderness.

The Buddhists and Hindus also fast. Some religious thinkers, such as Zoroastrian religious leaders are against fasting from food, claiming that abstaining from food has no moral value, when compared with "fasting from evil" with eyes, hands, tongue, or feet. In some religions, people fast during times of mourning. Sometimes, personal or political goals are sought through fasting. M.K. Gandhi of India used fasting both as a penance and as a means of political protest



"Fasting is, without any doubt, the most effective biological method of treatment... it is the 'operation without surgery'... it is a cure involving exudation, reattunement, redirection, loosening up and purified relaxation. While fasting, the patient improves her or his physical health and gains much. But he or she will have neglected the most important thing if the hunger for spiritual nourishment that manifests itself during fasting is not satisfied." said Otto Buchinger, Sr., M.D., Germany's great, self-described "fasting therapist," who founded the most famous of several renowned, European Buchinger Kliniks in 1952.

Prolonged, scientific fasting has proven itself, over several thousand years, as humanity's oldest, fastest and most effective weight-loss, detoxification, healing and longevity-enhancing modality known to mankind - both curative, as well as preventive.

Likewise, despite all 3 Fathers of Western Medicine having fasted and having prescribed fasting (Hippocrates, Galen and Paracelsus, who declared fasting "the greatest remedy, the physician within"), the fact remains that symptoms-oriented trained U.S. physicians are also equally in the dark.


http://www.healingdaily.com/juicing-for ... asting.htm


Dr. Elson M. Haas, M.D., offers some very beneficial information about fasting, addressing preventive and integrated medicines, natural nutrition therapies and detoxification (fasting).


http://members.tripod.com/worldupdates/ ... /id131.htm

Fasting and your Biological Rythms is a beautiful article by Doctor E. Kazim where he describes how fasting release special types of tranquilizing natural chemicals that not only tranquil our mind but also elate the mind. Also how fasting positively affects our sleep is discussed from scientific research


http://members.tripod.com/worldupdates/ ... /id136.htm

Miracle of Fasting is a very religion independent investigation on the benefits of Fasting. It talsk about how fasting is necessary for the internal purification, how fasting conserves vital force and how it cleanses toxins out.


http://www.bragg.com/books/mof_excerpt.html


Healthier Living through Fasting is an article by Ibrahim B. Syed, Ph.D. who is a Clinical Professor of Medicine at University of Louisville School of Medicine. The article focuses on how Science Favors Fasting interms of longevity, effect on weight, lipid metabolism etc


http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_1 ... asting.htm

Fasting enhances mental acuity
Not only internal digestive organs and others, fasting also enhances the mental faculty.

Perhaps the most instructive testimony as to the acuteness of mental powers during fasting comes from Dr. Herbert Shelton who supervised the fasting of more than 40,000 people over a period of fifty years. His message is that the freer the body is of toxic materials flowing through the blood and lymphatic system, the clearer is the ability to think. continue reading


http://www.falconblanco.com/health/fasting.htm


Yoga magazine has an article by Swami Satyananda Saraswati that talks about not only spiritual but also physical development relating to fasting. Along with other issues it talks about fasting and its relation with Somo-psychic or psychosomatic, balancing of the hormones and concentration of mind.


http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1981/5m ... thea.shtml


A Healthy Fast Is as Good as a Fresh Start
The article published in Buddhist Channel gives an outline how fasting can be seen as a healing treatment that purifies our bodies. Fasting restores the body’s innate self-healing ability that we have forgotten- mentions the article. “Hunger is perhaps the most intense discomfort people can feel. Our bodies recognize fasting as an emergency state. Autonomic nerves that were hibernating become alive, and react very sensitively and violently. They begin to throw away all the unnecessary things, leaving only the minimum needed for survival. In this process, all the waste and toxins are being eliminated,” say Prof. Shin Hyun-dae at Kyung Hee Medical Center


http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php ... 24,0,0,1,0





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g00se wrote:It's actually a well-known fact [amongst the dieticians and occupational health peeps] that in general people partaking of the ramadan fasting tend to put ON weight. It's all about metabolism [I think Choco explained it better than me].

Again. I love the idea that a religious festival can be used as a reminder to pureify and cleanse. Such a good strengthener for character.

However, just go a sit near Maccy D's or any of the other cr@p fast food joints and watch the orders fly in [and get scoffed just around teh corner "out-of-sight" :roll: :D ]

If yer gonna do it - DO IT !

[and yup, b4 I get flammed, I will be fasting in ramadan and I also give up booze during Jan too !]


I assume you're not Muslim? Because boozing is not allowed whatever the month. But why fast anyway though? You can eat a big breakfast, "hide" and drink water, and eat lunch as soon as you get home, if you're worried about offending colleagues.
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Concord wrote:Ok who's fasting for Ramadan?

In solidarity I did it last Ramadan but only for 2 weeks as I went to the land of the infidels for the last 2 weeks. I plan on doing it again - but will only be in Dubai for the last 2 weeks.

It should not matter where you are, its not an excuse for not fasting, isit?




p.s. I know many muslims who do not fast (and they are still ok). Sorry, what do you mean they are still ok? Sorry for sounding rude, but just interested in what you mean.
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MAC wrote:I eat fast.


:D :lol: :D :lol:
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lol muslims dont fast and its ok lol WHO said its OK. if u r a muslim U should FAST.

i dont wanna sound like an extremist or something but if u r not a muslim you can still fast. Fast and see how it feels like to have no or little amount of food in your tummy. Think about those kids in africa who dont eat that much. So i m gonna be fasting because am a musi and i ll be fasting for one of those lil kids who dont get that much to eat ALL year long. And ill be grateful to god for giving me the money to feed myself in the morning, afternoon and in the evening. so thats y i m fasting. so if u r not a muslim and see how it feels to be in the shoes of one of those lil kids i suggest u fast. try fasting for 3 hours, then 4 hours and so on.
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fasting is good if done in a proper and smart way. meaning religion or not, the way you fast should be adjusted to what ur body needs. some ppl "fast" every day of their life, simply because they are used to eating once per day. others cannot do that. i dont understand in depth the reasons because i was not raised to experience them, but being without water all day and doing hard work for ex, cant imagine how would that purify anybody or make them think of the spiritual aspect of their life.

another thing, this is a muslim country with muslim government. but half of the ppl living here, or maybe even more are not muslims. so while fully respecting local laws, religion, traditions, etc., shouldnt there be some sign of good will and consideration towards those who have a different kind of life? i mean, rule or not rule, i would not eat and feel good about doing it in front of smbody who is fasting purely out of respect. but when everything is closed, plus from most places u cant even order then its like forcing everybody to not only respect but obey.

anyways, ramadan kareem to those who celebrate the month :)
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I don't think half the people here are non-Muslims. Maybe in the social circles you hang in.
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I'm fasting between meals
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And no s-e-x during Ramadan, I was told .
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BabyDoll wrote:And no s-e-x during Ramadan, I was told .


Only when your fasting. After sunset you can..... :wink:
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rudeboy wrote:lol muslims dont fast and its ok lol WHO said its OK. if u r a muslim U should FAST.

i dont wanna sound like an extremist or something but if u r not a muslim you can still fast. Fast and see how it feels like to have no or little amount of food in your tummy. Think about those kids in africa who dont eat that much. So i m gonna be fasting because am a musi and i ll be fasting for one of those lil kids who dont get that much to eat ALL year long. And ill be grateful to god for giving me the money to feed myself in the morning, afternoon and in the evening. so thats y i m fasting. so if u r not a muslim and see how it feels to be in the shoes of one of those lil kids i suggest u fast. try fasting for 3 hours, then 4 hours and so on.


Yeah, so you stop eating for a few hours, you gorge yourself like a pig (no pun intended) at sundown and in the morning, then you pat yourself on the back by claiming you're doing it for the "lil african kids" (because we all know that hungry children can only be found in Africa).

So unless you're going for a month eating nothing but a half cup of rice a day, don't come in here with your pious holier-than-thou attitude and tell people who don't share your beliefs how inconsiderate they are for not postponing their lunch till 6:30 PM.
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As with anything to do with this subject, your connection with God is yours and yours alone.

Do not criticise other people's connection and how they address it.

Peace out.

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rudeboy wrote:lol muslims dont fast and its ok lol WHO said its OK. if u r a muslim U should FAST.

i dont wanna sound like an extremist or something but if u r not a muslim you can still fast. Fast and see how it feels like to have no or little amount of food in your tummy. Think about those kids in africa who dont eat that much. So i m gonna be fasting because am a musi and i ll be fasting for one of those lil kids who dont get that much to eat ALL year long. And ill be grateful to god for giving me the money to feed myself in the morning, afternoon and in the evening. so thats y i m fasting. so if u r not a muslim and see how it feels to be in the shoes of one of those lil kids i suggest u fast. try fasting for 3 hours, then 4 hours and so on.


Yeah, so you stop eating for a few hours, you gorge yourself like a pig (no pun intended) at sundown and in the morning, then you pat yourself on the back by claiming you're doing it for the "lil african kids" (because we all know that hungry children can only be found in Africa).

So unless you're going for a month eating nothing but a half cup of rice a day, don't come in here with your pious holier-than-thou attitude and tell people who don't share your beliefs how inconsiderate they are for not postponing their lunch till 6:30 PM.


It's 1 of the 5 pillars of Islam, that's why we do it.

It brings us closer to God, it helps condition your mind to avoid temptation and remember where you stand in the bigger picture of life.

Before anybody says you should always do this not just for 1 month you are right ......Like they say the first step is the hardest and ramadan is a good way for most people to start and continue.
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Exactly, since it is your own connection with god, it helps to avoid bragging about how righteous you are to strangers on the internet. You want to fast? that's great, but don't go around putting down people who don't.

The post I replied to earlier was suggesting that non-muslims should also fast in order to attain the same level of piousness as people who do. If you read between the lines, you notice that he is subtly implying that non-muslims have no consideration for the "little african kids" because they don't know what it's like not to have access to food.
My bull shit detector went off, so I chipped in to slam him in the face with the sledge hammer of fallacy.
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Posted Sep 16, 2007
I haven't read all your posts in this thread yet.

But I think it would be nice if they 'fast' with their bad mannerisms especially driving, and not just fast by abstaining from eating and drinking for hours in a day. I haven't come online for so long due to bad road accident. Thank God, I am still alive.
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