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Re: Sheik Essa Aquitted. Jan 14, 2010
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naruto wrote:well if the court saya he not guilty ..then he is not ..

for us we dont know what happened in the court ..maybe he brought new evidenc proving he was under drug ..but how,when or what type of drugs we dont know yet ..

Lets not anticipate events and wait for more clarification


Naruto, if it was you, or uaekid, or any other local, do you really believe that you would get the same treatment?? Do you really believe that the fact that he's from the Royal Family doesn't factor in??? Unfortunately justice isn't served when one man decides the innocence or guilt of another.

I can understand you and uaekid defending the UAE. What he did was criminal and barbaric and unfortunately it became an international scandal for the UAE and the Royal Family. You are no different than me defending the US, or a Brit defending the UK, or an Indian defending India when something negative happens that has an impact on the country and everyone else jumps on board to add to the embarrassment that we feel for our country.

But it is so obvious that he was guilty and that his "defense" was fabricated. There is no doubt that special treatment would be given to the offspring of any country's President, Ruler, Dictator, King, Sultan, or whatever. But should the common man be found to have done the same crime, the court would do everything to see that he (or she) receives the maximum punishment allowable by law.

You need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture and see it for what is it. The case was nothing short of being a public exercise to show that the crime was addressed through a trial and based on the "evidence", which goes beyond being even remotely believeable, the accused is excused and not held accountable for his actions, but everyone else who was there has been rightfully punished. Justice served. You know how justice is spelled here: JUST-IS. Which means that regardless of what you think of the outcome it JUST-IS, because one man, a judge, said so.

This "trial" was to appease the international community, but all it did was to bring further embarrassment on the country, and unfortunately for the Royal Family. It has created a question of credibility on them on an international level. Actually, it is insulting that they would actually think that any fairly intelligent person would believe that story, never mind the international community.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if your dialogue is quite different when sitting around with the boys and discussing this.


Evencually we will look at this case as a spical one considering the ppl involve in it. now I didn't defend ESSA ! you probably did not read my earlier post but ,what I'm against is how you want him to be convicted regardless !! This will also show how weak the court is if they do so. court laws does not judge based on feeling dear.

now, as you know, this case got an international attention and the court verdict cleared him bcz of narcotics in his system, however many are monitoring the event and the court system should get those test results from an independent party if they don't wana be questionable and if not then I'm sure this will harm them badly ,also everything has to be cleared to the public if the royal family wants it's reputation untouched.

I agree that was a barbaric act nothing less and did cause an embarrassment to the country no question about it, and should be handled very well, I believe everyone understands that, we just have to wait for the rest of the case to be reveled and again for some reason the US officials are involve so even if we wont hear it from here we will get the news for the US.

finally we will be able to tell if his "defense" was fabricated. when the hall thing is showmen to the public. I careless about him in person really bora bora, but I'm not with treating ppl differently bcz of there ranks ether positively or negatively here or any where else ..

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Re: Sheik Essa Aquitted. Jan 14, 2010
Kid, if he is acquitted because he had drugs in his system, then everyone who is in jail should be acquitted for any crime that they may have committed while under the influence of drugs. What you do care about is the UAE, as you very well should. But the laws here are a bit slanted. But, having said that, in the states the time you serve and where you serve it really comes down to your ability to pay for a good lawyer. There really is no such thing as the punishment should fit the crime. It comes down to who you are, who you know, and who you can afford to represent you.

The mere fact that such a fairytale was published in the papers is an insult to everyone who read it and to the UAE!! It just isn't believeable. And you know what, the truth will never come out. If it wasn't for that video for people to actually see what he was doing, then maybe there could be some doubts - not many, but some. You know what they say: a picture is worth a thousand words. That video speaks for itself.

And if he was such an upstanding citizen, if the Afghani was a drug smuggler, or dealer, why didn't he turn him over to the police and let them take care of it? You see, he knows he's above the law and thinks he is the law, so he took it into his own hands. He even directed the police as to what to do in that video. Let's do a for instance: if that whole scenerio played out in the US or the UK, do you think anyone would buy that story?? I'd rather read Herve's book, which seems very plausible next to this story.

So the UAE has a black mark against it, but to make it bigger by coming up with an unbelieveable story? Clearly someone didn't think this one through.
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Re: Sheik Essa Aquitted. Jan 14, 2010
naruto wrote:General speaking lets go to Iraq for a moment .Bush and tony killed so many innocent people in Iraq claiming that Saddam will use WOMD against them..now have they found these weapons ..no

Did any one suggest that we need to send those who killed the innocent under false accusation to court. no



Actually you're wrong on this. There has been a large swell of opinion in the UK and Europe (both before, during and after the invasion) due to the blatent lack of geniune intelligence to support the WMDs claim. As I write this, there is an independant enquiry being conducted in the UK to reassess the path that led to the invasion, and based on its conclusions, there could very well be criminal charges for those involved (Blair being the prime candidate).

The republicans in the US were ostensibly voted out of office because of the quagmire in Iraq, however, if anyone deserves to face war crimes charges, it is George W Bush.

This all belies the point however, that the invasion in Iraq was instigated because of a belief that it would help stabilise the Middle East and prevent a spread of terrorism (so much for the experts, huh), whereas the verdict in Abu Dhabi is just a shameless perversion of justice, done because of the guilty party's family ties.
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naruto wrote:General speaking lets go to Iraq for a moment .Bush and tony killed so many innocent people in Iraq claiming that Saddam will use WOMD against them..now have they found these weapons ..no

Did any one suggest that we need to send those who killed the innocent under false accusation to court. no



Actually you're wrong on this. There has been a large swell of opinion in the UK and Europe (both before, during and after the invasion) due to the blatent lack of geniune intelligence to support the WMDs claim. As I write this, there is an independant enquiry being conducted in the UK to reassess the path that led to the invasion, and based on its conclusions, there could very well be criminal charges for those involved (Blair being the prime candidate).

The republicans in the US were ostensibly voted out of office because of the quagmire in Iraq, however, if anyone deserves to face war crimes charges, it is George W Bush.

This all belies the point however, that the invasion in Iraq was instigated because of a belief that it would help stabilise the Middle East and prevent a spread of terrorism (so much for the experts, huh), whereas the verdict in Abu Dhabi is just a shameless perversion of justice, done because of the guilty party's family ties.


Let's not forget Rummy Rumsfeld and Condosleezea Rice. Oh, and the man who served his Vice Presidency living in a cave - Cheney - who was the mastermind behind the whole fiasco!!!!
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Re: Sheik Essa Aquitted. Jan 14, 2010
Bora Bora wrote:Kid, if he is acquitted because he had drugs in his system, then everyone who is in jail should be acquitted for any crime that they may have committed while under the influence of drugs. What you do care about is the UAE, as you very well should. But the laws here are a bit slanted. But, having said that, in the states the time you serve and where you serve it really comes down to your ability to pay for a good lawyer. There really is no such thing as the punishment should fit the crime. It comes down to who you are, who you know, and who you can afford to represent you.

The mere fact that such a fairytale was published in the papers is an insult to everyone who read it and to the UAE!! It just isn't believeable. And you know what, the truth will never come out. If it wasn't for that video for people to actually see what he was doing, then maybe there could be some doubts - not many, but some. You know what they say: a picture is worth a thousand words. That video speaks for itself.

And if he was such an upstanding citizen, if the Afghani was a drug smuggler, or dealer, why didn't he turn him over to the police and let them take care of it? You see, he knows he's above the law and thinks he is the law, so he took it into his own hands. He even directed the police as to what to do in that video. Let's do a for instance: if that whole scenerio played out in the US or the UK, do you think anyone would buy that story?? I'd rather read Herve's book, which seems very plausible next to this story.

So the UAE has a black mark against it, but to make it bigger by coming up with an unbelieveable story? Clearly someone didn't think this one through.



thats what I'm saying hon, if they didn't provide any evidence to the public then no one will ever forget this incident and will be part of AD history and if I know AD guys then they wont allow such a thing even from their brother. him thinking he is above the law was wrong and he will live in shame for the rest of his life especially in UAE.

but as long as the law goes which I provided earlier in this thread is the same law the USA uses and it's up to the lawyers or how good they are to make that law apply in their case to get their guy off the hook. but again the evidence has to be more than words from the court especially with all the media being so thirsty to bash UAE it is a big risk if they don't do so.

And I’m not saying anyone should believe the story, I sure don’t but as you may know laws are laws and cant be overlooked bcz of ranking dear. And trust me he is not the first or last person to get off the hook with lawyers up using a cretin law to their client benefits.
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Re: Sheik Essa Aquitted. Jan 14, 2010
Nothing like a trial by jury...
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:lol: :lol: Reading this thread I have to laugh at the way it's progressed. A classic case of a blind man leading the other.
This thread has nothing to do with Bush or Blair who is now a ME emissary and walks in and out of the ME with absolute impunity, neither is it about pointing fingers at other administrations around the world.
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Re: Sheik Essa Aquitted. Jan 15, 2010
Misery Called Life wrote::lol: :lol: Reading this thread I have to laugh at the way it's progressed. A classic case of a blind man leading the other.
This thread has nothing to do with Bush or Blair who is now a ME emissary and walks in and out of the ME with absolute impunity, neither is it about pointing fingers at other administrations around the world.


So true, a classic case of "Thread Hijacking"
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Re: Sheik Essa Aquitted. Jan 15, 2010
Misery Called Life wrote::lol: :lol: Reading this thread I have to laugh at the way it's progressed. A classic case of a blind man leading the other.
This thread has nothing to do with Bush or Blair who is now a ME emissary and walks in and out of the ME with absolute impunity, neither is it about pointing fingers at other administrations around the world.


cant agree more :D
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Re: Sheik Essa Aquitted. Jan 19, 2010
Chocoholic wrote:Kid, once again you spout absolute rubbish. The UAE needs alot of positivity right now, it's being dragged through the mud. And sorry to burst your bubble but YOU haven't achieved anything! This place has been built and it's achievements brought about by the hard work, blood, sweat and tears by it's imported work force.


I have to second choc here. There are double standards and expats put up with it because of their circumstances. But before the 'achievements' are touted one has to remember that not a SINGLE ONE has been put together solely by the natives. Before the expats are criticised pls ask yourselves who cleans your streets, who waters those gardens, who lays the bricks for the monuments, who does your housework... Pls do not disrespect the expats for with out them ... for starters thered be only 11 percent of the population left !! Wonder whod want to stay in the PALM then and what the property market would look like. It is a parasitic relationship whether you like it or not. Expats have built this country and respect is due
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